Are you still going to rock up at Fratton if you lose your manager to Bristol City?
Saints expelled from Play Offs by EFL
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Are you still going to rock up at Fratton if you lose your manager to Bristol City?
Just last weekend Konsa of Villa grabbed Macallisters shirt collar and the Liverpool player rolled about on the grass clutching his face.
The only reason for this would be to cheat and get Konsa sent off, therefore by giving Liverpool and unfair advantage in a game.
Was that described as cheating? No
It was described as embarrassing. No better than what we done but a far different outcome.
The only reason for this would be to cheat and get Konsa sent off, therefore by giving Liverpool and unfair advantage in a game.
Was that described as cheating? No
It was described as embarrassing. No better than what we done but a far different outcome.
I guess there must have been irrefutable evidence if we fessed up.
But yeah it’s been blown out of all proportion. Embarrassing but I’m not ashamed.
We all know it shouldn’t happen but it’s extreme. The decision has ultimately been made due to the timing a reluctance to delay or replay the playoffs.
I agree of course, it's the basis of all sport. But the horse has bolted on this since the game of football began, and we have't just decided to cheat because we want to put ourselves ahead of a field of non-cheaters. We have done it because the stakes are so high and because cheating is rife in all sports (not just football) - I'm loathe to call it cheating in many cases as much as basically finding loopholes for marginal gains. Tonda clearly wanted to leave absolutely zero to chance and gain that 0.5% rather than gain a huge advantage. He likely thought the opposition were spying on us training as standard.
The playing field is not level - teams walk the boundary of the rules everywhere, and that's why rules constantly need to be defined and re-defined, as competitors push back and back on them constantly. I won't name the examples, because we all know them and there have been countless instances even this season. The rules of the game look like they do because of constant cheating - most of the rules today didn't exist at the start of football: this one we're being pulled up for didn't exist a few years ago!
Is a sad fact, but we definitely won't be the last team to try to bypass and bend the laws of the game. I bet we've all celebrated the results of cheating we never even knew about, across all sports. We all draw our own ethical lines - I personally think this is fine-worthy but that's about it; others come down much more heavily on it. It's naive to think its not going on - unfortunately, if you don't cheat, you're probably not in the game!
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I agree with this. It was what I was arguing beforehand. We need to be in a situation where everyone is operating from a level playing field. Just because something like drones flying over Arsenal's playing ground happens, does not mean it is correct.
As I said above, we need a situation where the rules for EPL and Premier League are consistent and, if necessary, the league below this too to a degree. If you are just going to let these kinds of things go unpunished and accept it as the norm, there will always be a good chance that things will be decided by lawyers in football when they go wrong.
I must admit that I rarely Lincoln's comments seriously as they always tend to be on the hysterical side. They tend to vacillate between being ecstatic to being pessimistic, often within consecutive posts. I think what we have witnessed this week has been fraught for Saints fans but I think that the whole situation needs to be balanced and recognise what we have done is effectively cheat for a £200 million benefit. I am shocked because I had imagined that it was the once off action of the intern. The reality is that we did this through the duration of the season since December , thought is was "clever" enough to joke about it on Whatsapp and then complain when the EFL do not find it so amusing.
I am really ashamed of the club and disappointed that they felt they needed to cheat to qualify. I loved watching the football this season but will reflect upon whether this was achieved by innocent means,
I'm more embarrassed at our amateur attempts to do it than the fact we actually did it.
Though I do think the Eastleigh thing is piss poor.
Dragan is throwing some serious money at this. I guess if this bloke can’t get us of, no one can
I mean, if we're going to use a lawyer, it might as well be City's!
Nah Lincs is a lovely bloke.
Apart from when we're at Hull away, then he is a proper twat.