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Libby said:
Middlesbrough FC – Club Statement


Middlesbrough FC notes the decision of the Disciplinary Commission not to permit the club to intervene in the proceedings brought by the EFL against Southampton FC.

The club regrets that outcome given we are directly affected by the matters under consideration and hold relevant factual evidence as to the events in question and their competitive impact.

The conduct at issue, namely the observation and recording of our training session ahead of a fixture of such significance, goes to the heart of sporting integrity and fair competition. In these circumstances, the only appropriate response is a sporting sanction which would prevent Southampton FC from participating in the EFL Championship play-off final.

We remain hopeful that the EFL, as regulator, will pursue such a sanction before the Disciplinary Commission in order to protect the integrity of the game, safeguard all member clubs, and deter any attempt in the future to obtain an unfair and unlawful advantage in pursuit of promotion to the Premier League.

The club reserves all its legal rights.
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Libby said:
He's in a picture with Tonda when Tonda won manager of the month. So yeah I know for certain he works for Saints.
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The manager of the month photo was from February. He isn't in the March or April photos. According to the Ugly Inside FWIW he left in March and now works for Aston Villa.

If that's true then it puts a lot of doubt in Boro's version.
 
Good afternoon, boys and girls. Good to see you are still as level headed as always, although I have only looked through about half of the thread.
I watched a Football Martin video with Alfie House and Alfie put some perspective into what expulsion would be equal to, as in
1. Equal to a 10 point deduction, to put us outside the playoff positions.
2. A fine that could potentially be £250 million, by stopping our chance of promotion.
He also cited some legal experts who said that expulsion would be excessive.
My personal opinion is that other than the photographic evidence and the whistleblower, is that they don’t have any other evidence to support their claim, hence trying to bring other clubs into it.
As others have said the only issue with the whistleblower is if there is a paper chain. We would hope that there isn’t but then we would have hoped that we wouldn’t have been so stupid as to do something like this in the first place.
 
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I'm feeling quite relaxed about this now. Since the efl have appointed an independent commission comprising of legal people, I'm sure they will be extremely careful. All evidence is given voluntary. Unlike courts or the police they have no statutory authority. It's mostly going to be hearsay. If other clubs jump on the bandwagon they will need definitive proof. There is no way they will expel us from the competition as it will end up in the courts.
750k fine. Move on!
 
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SteveO 74 said:
Yes, they are doing everything they can to influence a decision in their favour. You’d hope that this will not be looked upon favourably as Southampton will have to fight an extreme level of outside noise from people who don’t know the facts, as they’re only hearing one side of the story.
We’ve already seen proof that the reported high tec surveillance equipment used was in fact an I phone and air pods, so this is proof that many many things have been over exaggerated due to Boro’s information dropping to favourable journalism
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And only an iPhone 15 Pro Max and Air Pod 4s, not even AirPod Pros....
 
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Ugly Inside saying Will Salt left Saints in March. That would be interesting if true.

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San Tejón said:
Good afternoon, boys and girls. Good to see you are still as level headed as always, although I have only looked through about half of the thread.
I watched a Football Martin video with Alfie House and Alfie put some perspective into what expulsion would be equal to, as in
1. Equal to a 10 point deduction, to put us outside the playoff positions.
2. A fine that could potentially be £250 million, by stopping our chance of promotion.
He also cited some legal experts who said that expulsion would be excessive.
My personal opinion is that other than the photographic evidence and the whistleblower, is that they don’t have any other evidence to support their claim, hence trying to bring other clubs into it.
As others have said the only issue with the whistleblower is if there is a paper chain. We would hope that there isn’t but then we would have hoped that we wouldn’t have been so stupid as to do something like this in the first place.
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Welcome back :)
 
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Libby said:
Middlesbrough FC – Club Statement


Middlesbrough FC notes the decision of the Disciplinary Commission not to permit the club to intervene in the proceedings brought by the EFL against Southampton FC.

The club regrets that outcome given we are directly affected by the matters under consideration and hold relevant factual evidence as to the events in question and their competitive impact.

The conduct at issue, namely the observation and recording of our training session ahead of a fixture of such significance, goes to the heart of sporting integrity and fair competition. In these circumstances, the only appropriate response is a sporting sanction which would prevent Southampton FC from participating in the EFL Championship play-off final.

We remain hopeful that the EFL, as regulator, will pursue such a sanction before the Disciplinary Commission in order to protect the integrity of the game, safeguard all member clubs, and deter any attempt in the future to obtain an unfair and unlawful advantage in pursuit of promotion to the Premier League.

The club reserves all its legal rights.
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SoriaSaints said:
Ugly Inside saying Will Salt left Saints in March. That would be interesting if true.

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The old adage lets not get facts get in the way of the truth, is perhaps very apt in Spygate, the Teesside media started it off and then it seemed to whole country joined in, blowing up what is quite an innocuous rule breach in the grand scheme of things, into the most serious offence ever !
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We’ve done this already. It’s not true.
 
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San Tejón said:
Good afternoon, boys and girls. Good to see you are still as level headed as always, although I have only looked through about half of the thread.
I watched a Football Martin video with Alfie House and Alfie put some perspective into what expulsion would be equal to, as in
1. Equal to a 10 point deduction, to put us outside the playoff positions.
2. A fine that could potentially be £250 million, by stopping our chance of promotion.
He also cited some legal experts who said that expulsion would be excessive.
My personal opinion is that other than the photographic evidence and the whistleblower, is that they don’t have any other evidence to support their claim, hence trying to bring other clubs into it.
As others have said the only issue with the whistleblower is if there is a paper chain. We would hope that there isn’t but then we would have hoped that we wouldn’t have been so stupid as to do something like this in the first place.
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Really good to see you on here mate! Hope things are well.
 
SoriaSaints said:
The manager of the month photo was from February. He isn't in the March or April photos. According to the Ugly Inside FWIW he left in March and now works for Aston Villa.

If that's true then it puts a lot of doubt in Boro's version.
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He doesn't work for Villa. That's based on an article that's 16 months old.
 
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