Southampton v Boro - 2nd leg
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tigermaul
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I was just listening to TS. A Middlesbrough fan put it succinctly... he said over the ywpolegs they didnt win.... BUT they Southampton have broken a rule and if it had happened mid season and they were docked 10 points for the infringement they would have missed the playoffs. as Jordan says, if they get fined 500k it means nothing, if it means a 10 point deduction next time in the Championship it mends nothing,...
Not been confirmed but apparently
One of the other clubs with evidence of southampton spying is wrexham
tigermaul
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I have just seen a video of a Sky Sports reporter stood in the exact same location it is alleged the spy was stood. It is literally a road leading to a golf club. I dont see how this is going to be anything more than a ticking off a fine for unsporting behaviour. Its not like he has broke in. Anyone could stand there. The biggest crime here is the dickhead didnt think to go in his normal clothes and went in Southampton gear by the sounds of it.
tigermaul
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It doesn't matter where the offence happened. Nowhere in the rules does it specify that they have to have been trespassing or on the other club's property. This won't just be a fine.
This is the Sky blow by blow video of events, I think they're going hammered, not thrown out the play-offs, but hammered in another way.
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That whole area is private property with access to members of the public
All owned by steve gibson
The golf club/hotel etc
£200m game and it’s fine margins at this level. When that amount of money is involved, he’d be stupid not to try every trick
Bloody hell, he is learning!!
Points deduction would be fairest and easiest to implement.
Large enough and I think Southampton would be asking to forfeit the result.
Certain relegation would affect the recruitment and retention of players. May as well hold their hands up and try again next year with no handicap.
Mia culpa and at least protect their good name .....a bit.
Large enough and I think Southampton would be asking to forfeit the result.
Certain relegation would affect the recruitment and retention of players. May as well hold their hands up and try again next year with no handicap.
Mia culpa and at least protect their good name .....a bit.
Surely they have to come down hard and make an example of Souithampton otherwise whats the point of the rule? We're only talking about the most financially valuable game in football at stake here; their cheating needs to have real consequence, which means they surely must get booted out of the play offs, otherwise cheating and breaking this rule is shown to pay (compared to the prize at stake).
I’ve seen a few saying Boro are blowing it out of proportion but I disagree. When Leeds did it, they got a fine because there was no official rule about this specific thing. Since then, the EFL introduced a rule to stamp it out. Southampton have blatantly disregarded and broken this rule. A fine isn’t sufficient. If they get a fine like Leeds, there was zero reason for the EFL to introduce a specific rule. It also sets a precedent for other teams to do it and just take the fine.
Boro and Gibson have every right to kick up a fuss.
Boro and Gibson have every right to kick up a fuss.
Bloody hell, you are finally catching up Jim.
Better (very very late) than never I guess.
tigermaul
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Not really unless it was imposed this season, and it won't be. Boro were wronged in what was a two-horse race to get to the final. Other teams may also have been spied on, which aggravates the issue and means perhaps they need to hold another hearing, but they have to deal with Southampton's transgression in a way which punishes them now and provides some redress for the wronged party. A forfeit 3-0 victory for Boro in the first leg solves the pressing problem.