Yes they are targeting and winning the WORKING class that all other parties despise.
Off Topic The politics thread - Starmer/Reeves/Farage etc.
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I agree in everything you said mate, was just pointing out that robinson has to my knowledge associated himself to restore.
Gdp in USA been upgraded whereas UK and Eu downgraded, that surely sounds familiar as European countries has been failing for years under the last 2 governments.
And NO i dislike Trump
And yet for quality of life European countries top every list.
Are you looking forwards to your medical insurance premium?
Correct! But the correct response to this contradiction isn't to call people an idiot and belittle them, it's to try to understand basic human psychology, why are people willing to accept policy that will probably hurt them? Politics is complicated, we need to stop trying to dumb it down with quips for dopamine.
Because a good third of the UK are "I'm not racist... but" types, the BNP were too overtly racist for them, Reform gives them an excuse to exercise their racism whilst pretending to themselves it isn't because they're racist.
I'll put my dad up as an example of those voters.
Fifty years ago, that “third” of the population might well have represented 90% or more. What you're describing is, at its core, isn’t always a tangible act you can point to; it’s often an unease, a gut feeling, or an instinctive reaction to what feels “other.” People say things that make you uncomfortable, and that discomfort becomes the lens through which you judge whether something is racist.
But here’s the thing: feelings, even when valid, don’t grant you the authority to dismiss or police the expressions of others. If someone’s words or actions make you uncomfortable, that discomfort is real—but it doesn’t automatically mean the other person is wrong or that their intent was malicious. Context matters, intent matters, and the burden of proof shouldn’t rest solely on the speaker to justify their words because someone feels uneasy.
Labour are knackered, Starmer saying he's not going to walk away shows he is tone deaf...but I don't think it will be up to him. The result shows how inept the Labour party are at challenging opposition movements bordering on completely ignoring it. The Tories done exactly the same with Brexit. At least with Brexit, Cameron stepped down (rather sprinted away with his tail between his legs).
This is a massive vote of no confidence in the government but this certainly doesn't mean Reform would win a general election. Get ready for things like the redevelopment in out city being stopped and not so subtle hints on private health care.
This is a massive vote of no confidence in the government but this certainly doesn't mean Reform would win a general election. Get ready for things like the redevelopment in out city being stopped and not so subtle hints on private health care.
It's close mate.
I live in an old mining community, so I am only too aware of the hardship and bitterness she caused and I share your dislike of her (and Scargill, by the way).
At home, she was a disaster, but on the foreign stage she had more balls than any of the Pm's that have followed her. She would have been the perfect leader to negotiate Brexit instead of the weaklings May, Truss and Johnson.
Starmer has been a disaster domestically and on the foreign stage, which is why I dislike him so much. Other than his transport policy, I genuinely can't think of anything he's implemented that I like.
There is only the UK and Brazil that have your outlook, wonder why all your European countries have private med insurance, perhaps it is better over there than our nhs. I have asked this question multiple time and never had an answer as to why no European countries have an NHS even though a lot are classed as socialists countries. All I ever get answered is i want the American model even though that looks like one of the worst.
Same here marra from a old mining community,I detest her for what she did to the community, unforgivable and for that no one comes close, but like you say Starmer is weak and only has eyes for the new Labour heartland (London),my late father also hated Scargill and he had a lifetime at the coal face
To all the people in old mining areas, you hate Thatcher but would you open the mines again if it was possible.
If and it’s a big if, health and well being for miners could somehow be guaranteed then yes,but it’s a very good question as the industry killed my fatha in the end, but don’t ever think Thatcher had the miners health in her head,she was a witch
I don’t think I’ve ever read that anyone is against immigration on here.
I've thoroughly enjoyed reading through the comments today.
I don't agree with a lot of course, but it's excellent reading intelligent, reasoned debate without people being personal and insulting each other.
(Unlike most bloody politicians).
I don't agree with a lot of course, but it's excellent reading intelligent, reasoned debate without people being personal and insulting each other.
(Unlike most bloody politicians).
That's that then. Pointless being bitter, let's just hold them to account.
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Definitely. Call them out every chance we get (just like they did with labour and that)
We won’t have the bot farms mind like they did.
Looks like they’ve been hammered in South Tyneside. It’s either 27 or 28 for a majority, can’t remember. I’m not sure if they’ve ever had anything but a Labour council.
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