Think we'll see the Short effect down the road this summer as their owners pull the plug
Mags embarrassing themselves yet again
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If Carlsbeg did summers!!
Put yourself in their position and try to work out an exit strategy, call it 'The Trump effect'.
The Saudis will eventually bale out of Dodge but how?
If they sell up now they'd need a buyer capable of either spending vast amounts for little return ...
... or facing down the Mags and saying 'No new stadium, no big changes to SJP and no big spending.'
In other words another Mike Ashley.
As you've said it's most likely to be a 'Short' style dumping of the debt and let a Donald/Methven operation jump in.
There's nothing in between imo.
In fairness to Short his heart was in the right place in terms of the club and we cost him a lot of money personally. The way Moyes wasted money in his last year was enough to knock anyone’s end in so we shouldn’t see him as a bad guy imho. Sadly he employed poor people.
In terms of the Saudis, the mags have cost them a lot of money already and it’s going to cost them a lot lot more to get their infrastructure to even a decent standard before they consider further investment on the playing side, which also needs significant more monies. The mags mean little to them and there will be a lot easier and cheaper ways to sportswash for them moving forward. it’s going to be an interesting watch and possibly a kind of mothballing will take place.
Mike’s shop windows were an easy target..there maybe some shouting at petrol stations coming our way soon.
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That's an interesting point mate, what do the Mags mean to them except a large captive audience?
The NE doesn't have a large cosmopolitan population, it's right wing as far as football is concerned and two Jews own part of the club. None of that really gels with a radical Islamic state tbh ...
... I don't think the Saudis will look back fondly at Newcastle or ever return once they've left.
I think the mags were a means to an end for sports washing and other political issues. There was never any real interest in the club as a whole, just a tool for a particular objective.
It reminds me a bit someone told me years ago about Blackburn Rovers and the Venkys. He said that the Venkys bought Blackburn because they saw other nationalities, Russians, Americans, Chinese, Arabs, owning football clubs in the EPL and thought "India should have an EPL team as well, India shouldn't be missing out" so bought a team in an English town with a large Asian community, thinking they'd become "India's team". But the Venkys knew nothing about football, running a club or the fact that indians interested in football already had a team to follow and wouldn't switch allegiance just because a team is owned by their country. Their mismanagement of Blackburn meant that they were never successful enough to attack newer fans in India.
I think the Saudis were similar. They wanted a team because of the Abu Dhabi lot at Man City, the Qataris at PSG and all that profile having a high profile club can bring. They wanted a team in arguably the most glamorous and high profile league in the world and were sold a pup by Stavely. They thought that it would be easy to buy success at the mags and it would dazzle people enough to make them look good. But it's not worked out that way and I do think they've lost interest in them. It's like buying an expensive car, buying a Jaguar is nice, but if it's mixed in with a bunch of Bentleys, Ferraris, Aston Martins, Rolls Royce's it ends up being a bit "meh". Unless there something to make it special to keep, you're more likely to get rid and forget about it.
Good post. And it sums up the dilemma the Saudis have.
The North East is the North East. Football makes a bit of a noise at times, but this is a Northern provincial outpost. ( Thank you Lord!!).
A senior Saudi government minister gets to phone his boss on the pitch at Wembley. But that moment has cost around £1bn.
So do they want to compete with London clubs, with 30m people within their catchment area rather than the 2m+ here? Or Manchester or Liverpool clubs with their own, permanently built in advantages?
And do that with a squad that has been built with no thought of tomorrow, which by the way has now become today; they have a lot of players on the last year of their deals and a good few others well into their thirties? A lot of effort and money needed there to get anywhere near the top teams. Will they spend years and billions on building up their facilities, to attract from that 2.5m+?
Nature abhors a vacuum, and the current vacuum suggests they are indeed getting bored.
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Never in the world who would have guessed it
These constant claims of success and overachievement are a little exaggerated tbh.
Howe was given a huge budget, they've not come close to the title and the Carabao Cup isn't exactly the Champions League.
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"They might need to find someone to replace their most successful manager in the modern era. What happened after Kevin Keegan and Sir Bobby Robson – the latter forced out after the fans turned against him sufficiently to make it an easy decision for a jumpy board".
But but but that never happened, loads of mags fans have said over the years - they even built a statue of him to show how loved he was!
They've well and truly hijacked a great man's memory. Shame on them
Not read the article but the moment that Luke "racist abuse was a bit unfortunate, like Ramsdales' goalkeeping" Edwards criticises the mags, you know something serious is happening there.
It's not unreasonable to expect a tangible return on such a heavy investment, and the Milk Cup win was that.
Getting into the UCL was a decent effort though, above par IMO though it was done without distractions both times, and with a team very much bought to "do it now".
This was part of a letter sent to the Premier League on behalf of a Newcastle United fanzine prior to the takeover.
I know it sounds comical but the author was deadly serious.
This is why it's pointless attempting to treat them as normal human beings.
Dear Mr Masters
As an onlooker following the Newcastle United takeover, I wish to register my bafflement at the obscene duration fans of the club have had to wait for an answer regarding the PIF/PCP bid for the club.
You have placed one of your football clubs — one of your most vehemently and passionately supported — in a state of paralysis.
Newcastle United, the Premier League and Tyneside in general would have benefited from such significant investment. You may have had reasons for rejecting the bid, but not giving a definitive ‘yes’ or ‘no’ for more than 100 days is inexplicable.
You have contributed to supporters of Newcastle United suffering from increased mental health issues. Your process needs seriously looking into, and I will be proposing a full investigation of the Premier League with the relevant governing bodies. You have a clear-cut conflict of interest regarding a relationship with Qatar, and it appears this was pivotal in your failure to deliver affirmative action.
I would like a prompt response to this email if possible, as I believe the supporters of the club deserve transparent clarification, and following today’s announcement that the deal is dead, you MUST come forward with some sort of explanation for millions of distressed members of the Toon Army.
Best Regards,
Dominic Kureen
I know it sounds comical but the author was deadly serious.
This is why it's pointless attempting to treat them as normal human beings.
Dear Mr Masters
As an onlooker following the Newcastle United takeover, I wish to register my bafflement at the obscene duration fans of the club have had to wait for an answer regarding the PIF/PCP bid for the club.
You have placed one of your football clubs — one of your most vehemently and passionately supported — in a state of paralysis.
Newcastle United, the Premier League and Tyneside in general would have benefited from such significant investment. You may have had reasons for rejecting the bid, but not giving a definitive ‘yes’ or ‘no’ for more than 100 days is inexplicable.
You have contributed to supporters of Newcastle United suffering from increased mental health issues. Your process needs seriously looking into, and I will be proposing a full investigation of the Premier League with the relevant governing bodies. You have a clear-cut conflict of interest regarding a relationship with Qatar, and it appears this was pivotal in your failure to deliver affirmative action.
I would like a prompt response to this email if possible, as I believe the supporters of the club deserve transparent clarification, and following today’s announcement that the deal is dead, you MUST come forward with some sort of explanation for millions of distressed members of the Toon Army.
Best Regards,
Dominic Kureen
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Ah bless.
Hope Dominic is ok xx
The club should ban him from the SOL.
Any journalist giving them oxygen should really have a think of what they did to one of their own. Morals lower than a snakes belly.
"Geordie Josh" on Twatter getting very angry whilst at the same time saying "There is no point in getting angry" 
Eeeeh I've just thought that it still works 
one nil down, two one up
Crystal Palace wrapped it up
with a nick nack paddy whack, give the dog a bone
all the Geordies ****ed off home
one nil down, two one up
Crystal Palace wrapped it up
with a nick nack paddy whack, give the dog a bone
all the Geordies ****ed off home