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Match Day Thread Tottenham Hotspur v Aston Villa

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by PleaseNotPoll, Oct 16, 2025 at 6:04 PM.

  1. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    This is all becoming too much of a recurring theme too.

    It feels harsh to say but right now Tel and Odobert are absolute dogshit. That’s not to say in 2-3 years they won’t be good players but they’re midtable Championship calibre at present and that’s where they should’ve been sent in the summer to develop. From Kane and Son to these two is a painful realisation of just how much things can change in football in a fairly short space of time, and also a sign of negligence on the board’s part to have zero adequate replacements in place for our former star’s departures (Solanke and Richarlison are also nowhere near the required level).

    As for Xavi, and I’ll sound like a broken record, the biggest fear I had was that Bundesliga attacking mids and/ or wide forwards have really struggled in the Prem over the last 10-15 years. Podolski, Mkhitaryan (sp?), Kagawa, Werner, Sancho, Nkunku and now currently Wirtz, Gittens and Xavi have all looked like fishes out of water despite doing between good and great in Germany. On paper it was/ is an exciting signing for the club, he’s the type of name and reputation that Spurs should be targeting but I just have serious worries about his ability to adapt to a league where space is very hard to come by unlike in the Bundesliga. In his defence, a lot of pressure has probably been thrown on him so quickly after the injuries to Maddison and Kulu but so far he’s failed to handle that pressure and it’s hurting us as we seriously lack creativity through the middle. For the time being I’d rather we give Bergvall a go at 10 and have Xavi on the bench and ease him into games.
     
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  2. BinghamSpur

    BinghamSpur Well-Known Member

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    It's very hard to disagree with you on this.

    Perhaps a bit harsh on Tel and Odobert, but I do see where you are coming from. Two or three years down the line I have seen enough in them to feel they will come good, but now is not the right moment. Due to our ever increasing capacity to sign players made of glass we are in a bit of a hole and yesterday you did feel that they could still be playing now and not scored another goal!

    H going was a massive blow for us and you knew it was a void that was never going to be filled easily, if ever, but I think Maddison is becoming a huge miss for us. There just does not appear to be much in the way of creativity coming from the middle at the moment. Simons will take time to adjust, he had moments yesterday but looks a long way off it as yet.

    Anyway, I never really expected much this season in all honesty so not overly surprised at the way things are going at the moment but Frank has to be careful that the very fickle home support does not start to get on his back too much, especially if the home form is going to nose dive.

    The only upside yesterday was that I bagged an upgrade to 1st class on the train back for a tenner. Now going forward that is definitely the way to travel.... <laugh>
     
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  3. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Yeah I’ve often felt Maddison got a bit too much stick from some of our fans last season but I think people are now seeing just how crucial he is when he’s out.

    I’m hoping the support don’t blame Frank for much yet, albeit I do think he needs to tweak the midfield a bit in home games. He’s been a bit too conservative than I’d have liked in them. Palhinha and Bentancur are the pairing for away games in my opinion but for home ones, one needs to drop out (Bentancur at present, Palhinha is undroppable) for either Sarr’s running or Bergvall’s passing to give us more umph in midfield. The Conte Bentancur would’ve been perfect with his box to box abilities but I think the ACL has rendered him more to being a deeper CM.

    The failure to sign a top LW has also hurt us more than I initially expected but that’s obviously not something I can blame Frank for. I thought we had a really good summer window (for a change!) and that a LW would’ve made it a perfect one but it really does look like a missed opportunity now. Kudus has been great on the right but we’ve not got an equivalent on the left, had we signed someone like Semenyo, I think we’d be sitting on wins vs Bournemouth, Wolves and Villa this season, or certainly have turned two of those losses into draws at the least.
     
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  4. Citizen Kane.

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    It's certainly a major concern and what's more worrying is how we keep spending decent amounts of money on multiple average-looking players, instead of a larger sum on a single player of genuine quality.

    I sincerely hope the summer's mess of a transfer window will be the last we ever see, one final act of illogical stubbornness by Levy.

    But we shouldn't be too harsh. The bigger problem is that there is no-one in the middle weaving it all together. I think that this is one of Solanke's strongest attributes. He isn't a great goalscorer by any stretch, but his movement, strength and willingness to run makes him a real asset in bringing others into play and creating more time and space that the likes of Simons, Tel and Odobert clearly currently need.

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: The drop from Kane to Solanke is pretty much the same as the drop from Solanke to Richarlison. The latter is a truly horrific CF. Came on yesterday and barely touched the ball.
     
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  5. KingHotspur

    KingHotspur Well-Known Member

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    Frank needs better and experienced players. The club need to stop worrying about the future so much and focus on the present. Tel was poor in his loan period and imo was a big mistake to sign him permanently in the summer. Odobert was another strange signing as he didn’t do anything of note at Burnley. Xavi Simons has a decent reputation but it’s gonna take time for him to get used to the PL and Spurs need someone who is ready now.

    For me the big miss is Kulusevski. Having him in the 10 role with Kudus on the right would make Spurs a lot more dangerous.

    As 99% of us say, Spurs still need a quality LW
     
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