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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Gone For A Walk, Sep 16, 2021.

  1. djsowtz

    djsowtz Well-Known Member

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    Ange has won more than most of the managers in the EPL, having won the Europa League in 1.5 years at Spurs. He’s won **** loads elsewhere. Arteta in 6 years has won an FA Cup. Ange also did it with most of his first team out for months and months. Thomas Frank is now winning games with Ange’s players that have now returned from injury, so not sure how you’ve come to the conclusion he’s a fraud?
     
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  2. Phinius T Bookbinder

    Phinius T Bookbinder Well-Known Member

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    No no and ****ing no
     
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    Surprised with Perth and Miami choices, I was expecting Argentina for Italians and any Spanish speaking South American country.
     
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  4. SydneyTiger14

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    Eh? Fraud?
     
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  5. SydneyTiger14

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    Bloody hell people get so obsessed with terms like fraud in football and it gets applied so hyperbolically. A serial winner wherever he goes is categorically not a fraud. It may end up being the case that the PL is just a higher level than he can be consistently successful at but that doesn't make him a 'fraud', and mentioning him in the same breath as Russell Martin is just bizarre.

    This. And everyone then goes on about how Frank is doing so much better than Ange until it's pointed out that after the same number of games Ange had Spurs first..
     
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  6. Kevin Francis

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    Ange is an awful manager and a poor tactician. He might get away with it in lesser leagues, but he’s been well a truly found out in the prem.
    He finished one place above relegation. He got the the fumbled his way to the Europa league final with an extremely favourable draw. His team then got dominated by the worst Man U team in living memory to glue a win by an own goal with their only attack of the game.
     
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  7. SydneyTiger14

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    <laugh> <laugh> <laugh>

    Yeah bloke won an Asian Cup with a piss poor Australia side but he's an awful manager and poor tactician. Must have lucked his way through that with a favourable draw too..
     
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    All the draws in the Asian Cup are favourable. <laugh>
     
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  9. bradymk2

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    Is ange is an awful manager and poor tactician

    Geez
    What must that make our manager
     
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  10. SydneyTiger14

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    Must be why we've done so well before and after him.. ;)

    As I said, maybe his ceiling is below the PL (debatable anyway) but there's a huge gap between that and being a fraud or talentless manager.
     
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    I have no idea who and how he managed, what trophys he's won, I just don't like the way he comes across in TV interviews. More psycho killer than man manager.
     
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  12. Kalman II

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    Postecoglou is the Aussie Tim Walter.
     
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    Playing Postecoglou ball is a bit of a mouthful!
     
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  14. Kalman II

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    In other news, bang-average Championship midfielder is whinging because he can’t cut it at one of the biggest clubs in Germany and he’s not getting enough minutes.



    I can’t stand the whole family. The father, mother, older brother and now younger brother are some of the most entitled, arrogant tossers going.
     
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  15. SydneyTiger14

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    What a strange comparison, not least because Walter failed everywhere he went.
     
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    It’s known as Angeball.

    I noticed he had his head down in the interview after the second defeat v Swansea, like he did at Spurs in most interviews last season.
    Any confidence he had seems to have gone almost immediately.
    I don’t personally see him coming back from it & I expect he’ll be gone by November.
    Having said that, I’m still surprised Amorim is still at Utd, he seems to have more ups & downs than a yo-yo.
     
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  17. Kalman II

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    They’re both arrogant, stubborn and lack pragmatism. Saying ‘it’s just who we are, mate’ when you’re getting beat nearly every week isn’t a good enough excuse for a coach, nor is it brave or principled. It’s just stupid. He was sacked by Spurs because they had their lowest league finish in years. He’ll take Forest down.
     
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  18. SydneyTiger14

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    His self confidence is born of results, he won a trophy with spurs when they were crying out for one. He could have prioritised the league and finished top ten but he went for the trophy. Lack of pragmatism? Did you watch the Europa final? His players have loved him everywhere he's gone. He's nothing like Walter.
     
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    He consciously sacrificed league position for a cup win? Strewth!
     
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  20. djsowtz

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    I think he’s brilliant, tells it like it is, doesn’t take any ****e off the press, gives real answers and he’s a decent human being.
     
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