Yes, I'm sure all of the 150,000+ people in attendance were aggressive, racist, far-right nationalists that were just out looking for a fight Just like all those who voted Brexit were also racist. If you can't see why so many people are unhappy and in attendance, and instead just label them all as uneducated scumbags that you look down on, then you are part of the problem.
Generally I agree with the idea that we shouldn't just write off others, I know not all those that want to debate immigration (as an example) are necessarily on the far right or racist, there are reasonable concerns to have. But in this instance they came out to support Tommy Robinson, there is no redeeming that.
The line is ... not all those who voted for Brexit were racist, but all racists voted for Brexit Sure its a generalisation, some people with concerning racial attitudes might have voted Remain for the clear economic benefits, but you know logically most would have voted Brexit.
If you think a march through London organised by Tommy Robinson and addressed via satellite by Elon Musk, isn’t a gathering of thugs and racists, you’re incredibly naive.
People aren't protesting because of their love for Tommy Robinson. Some of them will be of course, but he has been trying this sort of thing for years and generally has been ignored by the masses. The extra 140,000 protesters today haven't suddenly fallen in love with Tommy Robinson. This whole idea that we lump all people pissed off about immigration, or indeed the state of the country as a whole (which many attending yesterday will have been), as mindless thugs, just alienates them and pushes them further away. It's similar to how most brits and Democrats view people that vote for or support Trump. Many voted for Trump because of sheer frustration of being failed by countless other politicians - yet they turn on the TV to see idiots like Tom Hanks (and the left in general) mocking anyone that could even contemplate voting for Trump. All it does is cause an even bigger divide.
I think that is where I disagree. The majority out yesterday will have been because they are pissed off that their concerns on immigration have been ignored by both major political parties for the past 15 years. Robinson marches rarely get many more than a few thousand attending. There is a reason yesterday grew into one of the largest protests in the history of this country, and it isn't Tommy Robinson.
I disagree, I think more and more people are feeling emboldened. In the past people didn’t want to be associated with TR out of being judged, but a lot of these people now wear it as a badge of honour. I’m not saying they were all there supporting TR, and would have been there protesting the world we live in etc. I’m not happy with the current situation, but immigration isn’t my direction of ire. Mine is directed at the elite that take take take and deflect any of our issues on to rage baiting topics like small boats.
Been saying this a few days ago. We're sleepwalking into something far worse by ignoring and patronising people. I know someone who went to the morning part of the march (which I was really quite surprised about) - she said that like here, there were a lot of people there that didn't want the association with the likes of Robinson etc, but wanted the government to take some kind of action (much like the Swedish government, who have acted within ECHR rules, and for the first time last year actually had net emigration as a result, having been in a very similar situation to us previously). She walked to Whitehall to make the point, then came home because she didn't want to be there for the Robinson stuff. Apparently quite a few people did the same. The trouble is, when you have the likes of Robinson, Hopkins, Fox and Musk on one side, then the other side is being led by Diane Abbott, it's very difficult as a relatively normal person to understand quite where you fit in.
I tend to agree and I sit right in the middle of those people. Can’t stand Robinson, Hopkins, Fox and Musk. Abbot just lives in a different world. However, immigration isn’t the main cause of our issues in my opinion. Government underfunding to services for over a decade and cost of living increase has just put pain to a lot of peoples lives. I think for a long time we as a population have been in a fortunate place of living standards. We are not in a as fortunate position these days, and you can get use to things, like an entitlement. People want to blame something / someone, and social media helps find a culprit.
Sort of. Part of the problem being though, high immigration levels (both legal and illegal) puts huge extra strain on the public services we have (which does nobody any good, including any immigrant), which leads to more money being spent, which leads to people being hit in the pocket. That pisses people off.
