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  1. Late goal Scorer

    Late goal Scorer Well-Known Member

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    That seems the most likely explanation.
     
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  2. SAFC Wilks

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    Imagine if we were on the receiving end of a broken promise and FG/KS texted the other club saying “wish I never did the first deal with you”

    Pathetic that. The NEC lad needs to get a grip.
     
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  3. David Moyes' Stupid Face

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    Don't like to read stuff like this, doesn't sound like how we've done business at all. Even if Seelt (or his agent) rejected the move, I'd like to think we would have at least gotten in touch and apologised... Sounds like we're completely blindsided them which is poor form, imo.

    I get that it's business, but you don't want to get a reputation for breaking agreements at the last minute (even if not technically legally binding).
     
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  4. C Montgomery Burns

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    As the saying goes, there's three sides to every story. Your side, my side and the truth. There'll almost certainly be more to it than this.

    Did they do a mags and low ball us? When we had to keep Seelt due to injuries, did they give the impression that they'd walked away and looked at other options? Did Seelt have a choice between the two clubs and chose Wolfsburg? Surely they didn't pin all their hopes on Seelt and not looked at alternatives in case we had to keep him all season? Is it a case of sour grapes and painting the picture of a small club being bullied and treat badly by the bigger, richer club so they can save face?
     
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  5. Nads

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    Absolutely should have been done behind closed doors, but you’d think given how professionally we are run now a quick call and ‘look he’s a Bundesliga offer and it’s a better league for his development’ would have been at the very least decent to do.

    Reads a bit like it was a sale to NEC and we preferred a loan.
     
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  6. SAFC Wilks

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    We might have done but they rejected our call when Seelt’s agent told them he’s off to Wolfsburg.

    Anyways. Tough for NEC. Cheers for Roefs, lads.
     
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  7. Mackem 10.1

    Mackem 10.1 Well-Known Member

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    Dodds was only a caretaker, and did ok in his first spell, so they thought he would be ok in 2nd spell. Many fans (not me) wanted rid of Mowbray
     
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  8. Nads

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    Aye. ‘No takey backsies’
     
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  9. Daz

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    Exactly this, player has to agree also and he may well have preferred Wolfsburg. Very likely this is the reality of it.
     
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  10. C Montgomery Burns

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    To me the problem with Dodds second spell was how much damage was done under Beale before Dodds took over the second time? It's possible that things behind the scenes became so bad that there was almost no way to turn it round until the end of the season. Think like Wilkinsons time in charge. Dodds as caretaker probably never had the authority (and showing now probably not the ability either) to turn it round and it took until the summer when RLB was appointed and some squad changed to turn it around.
     
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  11. Comfy

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    Dodds was ****e in his first stint, think back to league 1 when we were beaten by Doncaster at home 2-1 then the week later beaten 2-1 at Cheltenham
     
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  12. LD19SAFC

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    Exactly. He definitely wasn’t ‘ok’
     
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  13. LD19SAFC

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    Imagine being told we’d sign one of those a couple of seasons ago. It’s absolutely bonkers

     
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  14. Hudson92

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    Very quiet on the outgoings still, still windows open for the likes of aleksic and jones to get loans?
     
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  15. LD19SAFC

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    Could definitely do with those 2 leaving and playing regularly
     
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  16. Hudson92

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    100% even if they don’t make it here they need to be playing, can see a few others being paid up too looking at you Joe Anderson
     
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  17. Mackem 10.1

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    Forgot he had 3 spells as caretaker, it was his 2nd spell where he did ok
     
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  18. Late goal Scorer

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    I imagine we’ll be trying to get loans for Abdullhai, Jones, Aleksic and, if fit enough, Aleksic and Hjelde.
    Presumably we’ll be trying to shift Anderson, Pembele, Ba and Matete permanently if we can too.
     
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  19. Late goal Scorer

    Late goal Scorer Well-Known Member

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    Anyone we agree to terminate contracts can’t sign for any British club until January now so don’t think anyone will be “ paid up”.
     
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  20. LD19SAFC

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    Can’t believe Matete hasn’t got himself an EFL move
     
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