This was a co-ordinated attack, co-ordinated with Russia and planned for weeks. First Trump ‘complains’ about media bias and subtly reorganises who he allows in the Oval office. Then he sends Zelensky a vacuous minerals deal with no assurances. He knows Zelensky himself suggested this and he can use it to bait the Ukrainian into coming to the US to hash it out. Then he appears to soften on Ukraine, ensuring Zelensky will be relaxed and expecting good fairh negotiations. Then on the day all these plans- Putin’s plans - come together. Zelensky is paraded in front of a hostile room of media right wingers and a Russian journalist and hounded like a war criminal. Without doubt the worst treatment of any world leader I have ever seen.
The BBC interviewed a couple of former White House staffers from both parties last night. Both agreed they had never seen anything like the treatment dished out to Zelenskyy in all the years they had worked in the White House, even in private talks away from the media spotlight.
Here are who? I was on here saying everybody is ignoring the threat from the right for 10 years. You all keep brushing it off with "enabler" or other style of comments. You all seem to think all you have to do is turn your noses up at people that are not on message and it will go away but here we are. getting further and further down the road. AfD is not gaining because people are turning fascist, they are gaining because the technocrats ignore anything th public (as in the public as a whole) may have concerns about. The "left" and "right" parties are the same sh1t different message and too busy working out how to steal the public purse to be bothered by any dissenting voices from the plebs and that is the reason the extremes are gaining traction, not a change in the public becoming more sinister/nastier in nature! Yes you can say these guys are snake oil but there has to be a different option than voting for continuity candidates that have no other mission than to make themselves and those up the tree rich. Turn your noses up all you want but that is the truth. And name calling me with that statement about far right shouting louder is a cheap shot. You know full well I have been saying this same thing for a long time. Warning against the advance of the far right, not cheerleading them! You all just ignore the threat. This is the problem with Ukraine and other wars too. The continuity just talks. Spiels wise words but is not prepared to rock their money boat. From Obama's red lines in Syria which he then ignored right through to this Russia conflict where the talk is tough yet.......Please Putin, can we have more gas. Talk, talk, talk. If you want to label any dissenter as far right then go for it but it just means you ignore what I have been saying which has always been anti far right!!
I think you should use your computing skills and your work for an American company to bring Trump down from the inside. Then you can update your name to thereisonlyoneno007. But on a serious note I agree with pretty much everything that the many decent people on here have said. Trump has effectively decided that help for America’s allies should be treated like they treat their own people seeking medical help. Give us your credit card details or something else of value or you can **** off and die.
Again a BS snipe here. The right do not hate migrants. You call me far right yet I am married to a migrant. You as many other "left leaning" people in this modern era always want to ignore the real issue and pin it on something else with wordplay. The right are concerned about immigration. That is a policy. They do not "hate migrants." Being against a policy does not mean you are against those that are involved in that policy!
One of Trump's team let slip a comment a couple of days ago which pretty much sums up how he/they are looknig at this. "If we have an interest in Ukraine, then there is something worth us defending." They are looking at purely business here. Not Ukraine, not appeasing Putin. $$$
Mate, I have had you blocked for a year. I am not aiming anything at you and am not interested in your justifications for your views. One of my best mates in the US is a MAGA fanatic and married to an immigrant - so that means **** all.
I think you think that. But for me, you spend too much time justifying atrocious behaviour and blaming the system for it. I don’t entirely disagree with you - the liberal system has empowered the right - but then you do things like this, getting narked for being called out when nobody has mentioned you.
Me on here. This is not me cheerleading. This is me wanting something worth voting for and not the continuity that just continues to fleece us and ignore us: 2016: 2016: 2016 again: I could search on and on and probably end up finding the stream of posts where I directly stated that we should be worried. Pretty sure that was around the 2015 election but I can't think what word to search for to find those posts. And to say me being married to a migrant means nothing I will assume you are not saying I am a racist because I am not a racist. I have no problem with migrants or immigrants. I have huge problems with policies that are to do with migration and politicians (and others) that then try to call anyone concerned with policies, racists. Immigration is quite obviously a positive but that does not mean an open door policy............something which those nasty "right wing" Tories turned on full in the last election but hey ho.
The reverse racist card? I never said that. I said my friend - note he is my friend despite his views - is a full MAGA cultist and has an immigrant wife. Therefore, to me, in my experience, I have an immigrant wife does not mean you do not have particular views. And I don’t disagree with anything you are saying. I don’t understand your problem. I am saying I have no interest in you yet you call me out.
Loading: Anyone that disagrees with you is a Nazi apprently You do make me laugh. I am not far right. YOU are far left. My views are 100% centrist
You are a delusional fool who has fallen into the Putin echo chambers. You are the victim of all this that ImpSaint is talking about.
I didn't know you had me blocked so in my timeline your post "appeared" to be responding to mine Apologies for that. i don't block anyone. As much as some posters make me want to explode it does me no favours not seeing what other people think or say. I guess some may see my posts as cheerleading the right when I am just trying to see it from as neutral a position as possible (which of course is impossible for anyone as we all have our own bias) and am worried that continued ignorance of public's concerns / worries. Using a lot of people's less diplomatic words to insinuate they mean something else. Politicians continually telling the media "what the people think" when the public are watching and thinking "thats not what we think" all in order to continue to do what they want and not what the public actually voted for. This all worries me because like we can see. Snakeoil is rife and these are the conditions that snake oil becomes more and more attractive as time goes on. You don't have to agree with Labour to vote for them if you think the Tories are doing bad. You don't have to agree with Tories if you think Labour are doing bad. However if both are within a smidgeon of each other, continuing the gravy train of syphoning away the public purse to their friends / contacts / pet projects .vested interests with different messaging and of course sometimes different targets for their open pilfering then voters will look elsewhere and similar to the Labour/Tory thing........you don;t have to agree with UKIP / Brexit Party / Reform to vote for them. Does not make you a raving loonie. Its no good the Lib Dems or any other new party coming in and talking about change while their words mean more of the same, different message. The immigration is and always was since Blair all about their gravy train. We are now n a massive fix with no more money to sort things out, too many people for the infrastructure they all ignored. Even Blair's "investment" in schools and hospitals was a cash grab that resulted in new infrastructure but at a massive cost which then hindered the ability to do any more infrastructure for the length of those overpriced "investments." And while Musk might not be the nicest chap and his way of doing things is Bizarre and poorly targetted.....the problem being addressed is correct. Across the Western World the public purse should be going to the frontline. borrowing directly to fund infrastructure, not paying 3x the money to your pals to build and maintain it. It should go to Nurses, policemen, teachers, not the huge layer of bureacratic positions invented to give a layer of "managerial" or other stuff for more of your pals. It is systemic across all mainstream parties across the Western World. The utilisation of "education" to shift as many young people off the unemployment register has been a huge failure. It has ripped the heart out of trades and other "lower skilled" jobs to the point we have skills shortages in what used to be something that you could get a proper apprenticeship / advancement for life from. The BS scam of student fees tied to that of which 85% will never be repaid but is guaranteed of course by government is another major problem which is still yet to hit fully until those 30 year loans start to end. This is gonna become a huge problem through the next decade onward because the goverment will be the ones paying this back and thats more money up the tree. Every mainstream party talking about inequality in terms of money has been pushing policy that makes the rich richer and richer for years. So like I said from 2014 (and before) If people seriously want to stop this slide towards the far right........there has to be an alternative. Someone that will stop this wholesale plunder of the the public purse or snake oil wins. Whether people talk about immigration or doctors or class sizes or crime. It all boils down to "the economy stupid" where people want the public purse to stop disappearing up the tree in open sight. This was the Brexit vote in a nutshell. Paying another body to decide to divert public funds when we had one already doing it here just doubled the whole problem up and as we can see across Europe all countries have this monetary problem. I'm not a Trump fan, nor Musk nor Farage. I don't like the way they do things (or in Farage's case would like to do things as he is not in government) but that does not mean the problem they are addressing is wrong. "The State" across the Western World needs stripping back from top down. It should be a much higher percentage frontline staff and all the jobs for the boys need culling. The EU blob needs to disappear. The whole lawfare stuff needs to be peeled back. And the blindness all our "leaders" and those that are in the public domain need to stop trying to "shame" people into voting for the status quo. It does not work. The "status quo" is the problem. These leaders say the status quo is the problem but then when in power do everything they can to maintain the status quo under the pretence of change.
I think I probably blocked you because all your posts are this long and I am lazy. I apologise that in blocking you I didn’t realise how my post looked. I have unblocked you now and will try to be less lazy and read what you have to say.
This is the reason that I think Trump and Vance have some a lot of fair points. If I was an American taxpayer why the hell we are spending all this money.
