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New Years Honours List

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Essayyeffcee, Dec 30, 2024.

  1. Essayyeffcee

    Essayyeffcee Well-Known Member

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    Aye, 40 years running that my knighthood has got lost in the post. That has to be a record. Bloody Royal Mail.
     
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    My God Southgate the ultimate failure as England's manager and gets a Knighthood, Sir Alf Ramsey should be turning in his grave. Poor by any standards.
     
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    Ultimate failure is a bit harsh. He did a great job of creating a creative squad but never took a team and elevated it. Prefer the big recognitions to be for big achievement otherwise it just becomes meaningless.
     
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    To be fair he's had one eye on it for years.
     
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    What a waste ( of our money ) this feudal charade is , Long live the King.
     
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    Harry Maguire should get on for services to the opposition.
     
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    Dame Lydia Ko.
    Delighted for her.
    :emoticon-0139-bow:
     
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    More success than any England manager since Ramsey.
    Taylor, Hoddle, McClaren, Hodgson and Capello were failures (or at least bigger failures than Southgate if winning a trophy is the yardstick)
     
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    The man who left Cole Palmer on the bench for 70 mins in a Euro final.
     
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    A lot of those had teams where we relied on 1 or 2 star players, Southgate has had a Golden age of players that should have won something.
     
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    Khan.

    Knightmayor.
     
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    What did he win though? At least Ramsey won our only World Cup, getting a Knighthood for being a poor second is pathetic imo.
     
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    I wonder how many tickets he had to give to Starmer for that?
     
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    Agree. I find it a bit embarrassing for the country. When Alf Ramsey and Alex Ferguson get them you think wow that really elevates them and recognizes their greatness, and maybe by reflection the country's greatness. When you give them to the likes of Gareth Southgate who is a nice guy and did some good things but is plainly not great, I think it highlights averageness and makes us look a bit silly. Just MHO.
     
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  18. Gordon Armstrong

    Gordon Armstrong Just another S.A.F.C. fan
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    A career of success - Bobby Robson :emoticon-0112-wonde
    I remember him winning the F.A Cup at Ipswich, but nothing else in England !
    He seemed to be a very nice fella, but I can't think of anything else that he did to be mentioned in the same sentence as Sir Alex, who definitely deserved a knighthood.
     
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    He is a nice guy so I assume he is suitably embarrassed by it all. "Gareth, how did you get to be Knighted?". "Err err err err......runner up twice but where a nice waistcoat"
     
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    An FA Cup and UEFA Cup with Ipswich then a lot more success with PSV, Porto and Barcelona before a decent showing as England manager. Also had a big influence on a few future managers like Mourinho. Not saying he’s the greatest but the ‘in England’ focus really plays down his career. That’s what I’m comparing to a manager who had a middling time with Middlesbrough and ultimately did not win anything with one of the most talented England squads for many years.
    SAF deserves his own paragraph as no one has managed the level of sustained success he has at a single club. The.golden one of Pep left Barca because the bubble burst and his Man City team looks to be going the same way. Mourinho is an excellent journeyman as again can’t sustain long term in a league.
     
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