Off Topic US General Election

would you say its a battle of gettysburg?

 

Agreed
There are enough Americans involved in their elections to throw insults at without doing it to each other!

 

We'll keep it contemporary and call it populism, Berlusconi and Trump can be called populist yet are fairly obnoxious characters, Farage is very similarly obnoxious, however populism can be more appealing under better leadership for example Meloni in Italy, and possibly Vance in America.

 

A person’s opinions on Chamberlain and Churchill is a good litmus test to how historically-literate they are.

 

If some of the final polling is indicative of shifts amongst certain demographics then there is a route to 270 for Harris without it, but I agree, that's the most likely scenario and it's likely to be turnout which decides it.

 

That is a bit of a silly comparison really as it was Chamberlain who declared war on Germany not Churchill.

 

From trump to win he has to take it imo and if he does, I have him at 271

 

Bobby’s brother?

 

I haven’t checked, but how is Milei getting on in Argentina?

 

Lolled

 

To be honest I was just making a stupid point about appeasement for comic effect....

 

4 percent of the Pennsylvania population is Puerto Rican or of PR descent and eligible to vote. Why the hell would you have a warm up act at Madison Square Garden last Sunday call Puerto Rico a “ floating island of garbage”? Thats 300,000 pissed off voters. If he loses PA and ultimately the presidency this will be one for the history books.

 

I agree. Berlusconi and Trump are crass. Their crassness won them a niche support base but eventually that bravado wears thin. They lack tact and are/were outsiders from politics. A person like JD Vance could inherit that populist base and make it more palpable to swing voters because he actually has tact, he chooses his words carefully (unlike Trump) and he knows how to play politics better than Trump.

 

That guy is a ****ing tool, more so than Trump even. He’s what happens when an edgy libertarian memelord becomes head of state of a country.

 

I'm not sure Vance would win the next nomination, I think Ron Desantis could be the nomination in the next election

 

Poverty levels over 50%, ppl dying of treatable diseases that they would have survived 5 years ago, rubbish in the street and schools closed down, but fiscal deficit has reduced, dollars back in banks treasuries and inflation no longer triple digit... So conclusions are up to you to make.

 

Vance is Musk's pick isn't he? Won't be short of funds.

 

It depends. There’s a populist current in the Republican Party right now headed by Trump, Vance and others. There are others who don’t really like Trump but will back him anyway against the Democrats. Then there’s Republicans who are NeverTrumpers who would rather vote for Harris than him. A lot of them are neoconservatives who disagree with Trump mainly about foreign policy like Liz Cheney.

I think it will be between Vance and DeSantis.

 

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I think Trump is Musk's pick, solely in the hope that if he sucks enough dick, Trump will pardon him, saving from the circling vultures due to his finanacial misdoings.