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New Head Coach

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by FellTop, Nov 26, 2023.

  1. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Thanks, as I thought you're trying to compare apples with oranges ...

    ... anyone recruited into a high profile oil & gas position would have the commensurate experience.

    I keep seeing people trying to compare football with their own employment, it just doesn't compute tbh.
     
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  2. Culinary

    Culinary Well-Known Member

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    I did wonder about Still’s thinking with that, when you see the clamour there was for McKenna and the job Maresca has landed off the back of a season in the Championship (even Kompany to an extent) suddenly this league looks like a cracking stepping stone for head coaches.
     
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  3. Scout73

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    Yep they still have a lot to learn, it takes time to build that 'list' of suitable candidates and i think losing james young has had a massive impact on it

    Its the same with player recruitment, it takes yrs to build a really solid scouting team. I've been at my club for 3 yrs and im just now building a true understanding of what is needed to improve our team

    Huge summer ahead so they just need to get their manager in now
     
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  4. SAFCDRUM

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    Imminent <whistle>
     
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  5. Rade Prica

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    May be completely misguided mate but my understanding was James Young had built the systems we now use, so the feeling internally was that it wouldn’t impact things much (if at all). Whether that is how it’s panned out is another matter, mind.
     
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  6. flandersmackem

    flandersmackem Well-Known Member

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    All I am doing Smug is looking at the process..

    The way Topcat described the model for recruitment at the top end of business was a broad statement for general recruitment...which is not the case when recruiting for certain positions.. I know, I have been involved. Each business has its own little quirks..I'm sure football does as well...but the process is pretty similar...not saying exact, but similar... again, all I am saying the way they appear to have dealt with this is greatly flawed. Thats assuming the Will Still story was true, and if its not what's the excuse for the delay. We all want the same thing, but you have to admit this process has not been dealt with professionally. The goodwill the owner has had (correctly in my opinion) has been draining away with this. He needs this person to hit the ground running for sure.
     
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  7. Scout73

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    Fair enough, hopefully thats the case - just seems like our recruitment hasnt been the same since he left and last 2 manager searches havent been great to this point
     
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  8. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    I know, but as top businessmen, like Short have found ...

    ... football doesn't follow that process.

    If it did it wouldn't be the game we all love.
     
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  9. flandersmackem

    flandersmackem Well-Known Member

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    So...in your opinion, what is the process
     
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  10. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    None of us know, including yourself, that's the point.

    We don't have a clue if Cifuentes was granted permission to speak to us, we don't know if Cooper is free of his contractual obligations with Forest, we don't know if Still asked for wages way above what a Championship club could possibly offer.

    Wages and contracts, in the oil & gas industry follow a process ...

    ... football is like no other business outside of show business.
     
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  11. Wackyjacky

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    I wouldn't ask you to name any of the 3 names but is there any names you can categorically rule out? Apart from the ones that have already distanced themselves. I'm thinking the likes of Challinor, Robinson, Heckinbottom etc, can they be ruled out?
     
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  12. Bucky1989

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    Yes? 2 were discredited couple of weeks ago.
    Heckingbottom is waiting for a PL club
     
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  13. flandersmackem

    flandersmackem Well-Known Member

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    Ok.. fair enough
     
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  14. Mr Tickle

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    Really...? Think he may have a long wait!
     
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  15. Smug in Boots

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    I wonder which one ...

    ... can't think of any club who'd have him, can you?
     
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    Looks like Leicester are close to appointing Potter. Great appointment.
     
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  17. samwise_new

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    if i wanted to slag the club off every chance i got then these past few weeks would have given me more than enough ammo...IF all the stories were/are correct, i read through day after day and see plenty who are using this 120 day yardstick to beat the club but with no real evidence except that MB was sacked then, i also see plenty of posts from lads who are (rightly) getting very anxious at the minute but i feel most of them will settle once a coach is announced and then i see others from lads who have no more evidence than anyone else so prefer to give the club the benefit of the doubt.

    i am quite happy to leave it to the club to sort it because nothing i say or do will influence any decision they make, this does not make me a 'happy clapper' as i sure as hell could be much happier about it but it is what it is..so we may as well sit back and keep our blood pressure at the right level.

    ;)
     
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  18. Culinary

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    Upgrade on Maresca in my opinion.
     
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  19. SourPatch2

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    I agree. Hope Potter gets back to being looked at as one of the best coaches in the country, think he deserves another shot at an elite club.
     
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  20. John Wick

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    They're the best to cook with.
     
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