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  1. Juan4754

    Juan4754 Active Member

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    I can never trust labour after they decimated the countryside in their last term in power
     
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  2. ISOE II

    ISOE II Well-Known Member

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    They are all Smugs alter egos ;-)
     
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  3. ISOE II

    ISOE II Well-Known Member

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    IMG_1405.jpeg This is currently where my thoughts are at.
     
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  4. Flash Gordon

    Flash Gordon Well-Known Member

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    Is any wealth unacceptable for a politician?

    Do you see donations and gifts as equally as bad?

    I suspect you'll have a hard time voting for anyone based on that standard, as much as I admire your stance.
     
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  5. vic9

    vic9 Well-Known Member

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    No,wealth is acceptable for everyone,good luck, just don’t preach and contradict
    Aye I do have a hard time voting,as I’ve stated earlier i compare mps with Dennis Skinner, admit it is harsh but there you go :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  6. Montysoptician

    Montysoptician Well-Known Member

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    But the NHS, social care, mental health funding, care in the community, high tax burden, state pension age, social housing, welfare state, national debt, budget deficit, inflation, economic growth trend rate, investment, wage growth, net migration, GDP per capita, emergency services and food banks are acceptable?
    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...mic-record-budget-deficit-gdp-tax-tory-budget
     
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  7. Montysoptician

    Montysoptician Well-Known Member

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    I do get where you are coming from and in the back of my mind I probably agree with you, but Rayners earnings are declared in the Register of Members' Financial Interests and are therefore deemed to be above board.
     
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  8. vic9

    vic9 Well-Known Member

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    Aye all above board mate no problem, but haway an extra £400,000 on top of your £91,000 salary, taking the piss surely
     
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  9. vic9

    vic9 Well-Known Member

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    That’s the website from the figures,sorry not to be able to provide the link,can you remove that pinch of salt now <laugh>
    upload_2024-5-24_11-13-41.jpeg
     
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  10. Montysoptician

    Montysoptician Well-Known Member

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    Where has the £400,000 came from? you posted £300,700 yesterday and I still haven't seen any context or confirmation of that figure.
    https://www.theoldhamtimes.co.uk/news/23218195.oldham-mps-earned-top-salaries-2022/
    I can understand the figure if it is the total gifts and extra income since she was elected in 2014, which according to the Register of Members' Financial Interests, includes her staff.
     
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  11. Montysoptician

    Montysoptician Well-Known Member

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    No because your post has no context and I use the Register of Members' Financial Interests for my information, you should probably try that instead of being influenced by Sky's interpretation <laugh>

    Edit
    I've just had a look at your source, it covers the period of this parliament, 2019 - 2024 and claims that the value of her declarations is 'approximately' £432,200, this figure includes estimates of the value of the benefits (estimates are not factual). In addition, the people she employs and their salaries are included in the total figure.
    Looking at things in context paints a completely different picture than selecting headlines.
     
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  12. vic9

    vic9 Well-Known Member

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    ££400,000 is for the latest update of figures,do you think it’s excessive?
     
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  13. Juan4754

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    Most of them problems are caused by Blair and Labour BTW. You seem to forget Labours winter of discontent where the NHS nearly collapsed, Blairs Public Private Partnerships which to this day take up 30% of some hospitals budgets, Blair opening the floodgates to huge levels of immigration, Brown selling most of the UKs gold for a 10th of the price its at today costing the UK over 100 billion, Brown left huge budget deficits which led to austerity, Blairs illegal war in Iraq which murdered thousands of innocent people, Blair shut more mines than Thatcher, the creation of hundreds of non degrees such as golf management costing people thousands in debt, the hunting act which has left the fox population decimated, Blair oversaw a collapse in industry where output fell 3% over the Labour government which cost hundreds of thousands of jobs and I could go on and on
     
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  14. vic9

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    Not doubting you mate,but is that correct?
     
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    Montysoptician Well-Known Member

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    Rubbish
     
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  16. Montysoptician

    Montysoptician Well-Known Member

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    To begin with, it's an estimate by Sky, they tell you that in their article, and in context over 5 years paying staff wages etc. No I don't think it is excessive
     
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  17. Juan4754

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    It is
     
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  18. farnboromackem

    farnboromackem Well-Known Member

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    Its not mate - Wilson shut more pits than Thatcher. There were few pits left for Blair the Warmonger to shut
     
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    They are all tarred with the same brush regardless of party. Fairy stories used to start with once upon a time , they now start with "when I'm elected" Non of them can lie straight in bed. Self serving pricks, the lot of them!
     
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    She’s in a head to head battle with Tim Farron <laugh>
     
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