Why is the club like this?
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Possibly so, I can't imagine those speakers are light and 99% of pickers are only suitable for 2 men and lightweight materials. Especially at that reach and height
This. It’s never as good as it seems, and never as bad as it seems.
Nick Barnes and Gary Bennett said on commentary yesterday that the brackets holding the tannoy loudspeakers around the SoL have corroded meaning there is a risk they could fall off and more than likely kill an unlucky fan sitting below. The club's solution to this? Buy new brackets/speakers and install them? No. They have put netting around the speakers in case they fall off ! This is indicative of the penny pinching going on at the club
It sounds to me like there's quite an appropriate analogy here.
It's more likely there are dirty pigeons nesting there, messing on the speakers and causing problems for the club ... pretty much the same as the likes of Barnes and Bennett.
The nets will be to hopefully keep the pests out.
How on earth would those two know that the speaker supports are corroded through and why are people so keen to believe them then use it as another stick to beat the club with. I doubt they even know the club have tendered for a totally new 'state of the art' installation ... or perhaps they do know and chose not to mention it which is even worse.
FFS, birds roost on things, they shyte and it corrodes the paint. I hate to say this but you can include some of our ex-players in this corrosive drip drip drip as if they can't accept any new ideas. I'm sick to death of people like Ball, Gabbiadini, Bennett, etc, whining on about the club while waxing lyrical about their glory days. They won us next to nowt and helped get us relegated to the third division, etc. None of them are good enough to manage a club but always think they know better than our manager. They're part of the problem imo, they must put people off coming.
It wouldn't surprise me if they're the ones spreading rumours about turmoil and arguments at the club because they feel excluded and that their valuable advice is being ignored. None of them are from Sunderland yet hung around making money off the club.
Seriously, if the best thing Bennett can find to talk about is speaker brackets it's time he flew his cosy little nest and didn't come back imo.
https://safc.com/news/club-news/2024/march/multi-million-pound-stadium-experience
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What size speakers are they using, how much do they weigh, are we putting up new speakers in the close season, what is cost and timescale for changing brackets, if we are changing speakers in the Summer is a re wire required, do we have any other work planned for the summer regarding work at height and could the speaker brackets be replaced then so we are not double handling, Is a crane lift required, are we using a contractor for the works, will it have to go out to tender or do we have a facilities management team who can deal with this task or is it to be done by a specialist contractor, do the nets comply with safety regulations until a competent contractor can be found to repair or replace the speakers, will it be an in house lift or a contract lift, are permits to work at height needed, do we have suitable on site supervision and an appointed person for the lifting.
These are just some of the questions that need to be asked before attempting to do these works, and anybody that has worked in construction will tell you that regulations regarding lifting and working at height are very stringent as it one of the most dangerous activities in construction, so there will be no quick fixes and no short cuts and all work will be closely monitored and all paperwork will need to be double checked.
But I suppose all we need is a cherry picker eh.
There's some clown saying 'there's 5 working days, between now and the Sheff Wed game, why do they have to wait until the summer ... to install a totally new PA system 5g Internet and new lighting'
It's almost as if some people have absolutely no experience of major projects.
I think it is obviously people that have maybe not worked in the industry or maybe do not have a full understanding of the scope of works required as it does seem like changing a couple of brackets should be an easy fix but the reality is it is more complicated than people give it credit for.
Some of it is basic stuff and just common sense that applies across all business though. Succession planning etc.
It’s funny when you say this to “some” who simply wish we’d spent 35k per week on Moore or £15m on a striker in January. Literally no reasoning with them
Tongue in cheek or not, if not then it’s a ridiculous statement. Guaranteed the stadium passes those safety check which will be required probably weekly. And with concerts coming up, you can guarantee the health and safety exec will be all over thatSurely we have some sort of facilities management that check up on these sorts of things though to not allow things to fall into such a state of disrepair that they are fubar. Especially from a health and safety point of view. A phone call to the Health and Safety Executive could probably see the ground closed on safety grounds
I am sure as they got them up there in the first place someone will know what is required to replace them -simples !!!
The netting may be a bird deterrent measure or it may be a safety measure I really don't know which without. But the truth is any works on hem will require some major planning and if they plan effectively there may be further works that can be incorporated without having to pay more in re-mobilisation cost which can become expensive. We have a lot of fans who will tell the club to get the commercial side right as every penny counts and this is all part of the commercial operations of the club.Wasn’t the netting a quick fix?
They would have been placed by a contractor or even a sub contractor to the principle contractor as part of a scope of works (there will probably been a maintenance and inspection agreement in place but that is a contractual issue for the club and it will probably have lapsed under the previous owners as they will have had to pay for it) for the installation of the PA system. The facility management team will have details of which contractor placed them. however that works will still require all paperwork and assurances required under working at height regulations and industry standards.
Their will be a large number of people who know what is required but the club need to ensure that all works are undertaken in the safest most cost effective way using a qualified recognised accredited contractor to deliver the best results to the highest quality
It really is not so simples.
I am working on the inside of a large tower block in Newcastle. The contractors who worked outside have spilled what looks like tar on the outside of of one of the windows on the 9th floor. It was scaffolded off when they were doing their job, that scaffold has now been dropped. The window is now inaccessible to clean the offending crud off. Those same contractors will be responsible to clean the window. I would imagine they will have to pay for a solution to do do that, either themselves or get some specialist firm in to do it.