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New Head Coach

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by FellTop, Nov 26, 2023.

  1. Flash Gordon

    Flash Gordon Well-Known Member

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    The negativity definitely plays a part. Just like momentum works forwards too. It can become a self fulfilling prophecy in many ways.

    Quite why so many Sunderland fans are creating an environment that will improve the likelihood of failure is beyond me. Because we've only had 1 promotion in 2 years and not 2? Because we've got a chance of a second promotion through the playoffs but some think we should take it automatically? Because we're not spending so much money that we have to worry about FFP?

    There's an awful culture of entitlement that exists these days and unfortunately we're no different. I thought our fans might be grateful for just a little while longer.
     
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  2. LD19SAFC

    LD19SAFC Well-Known Member

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    Needs a good start. We’re due a win over Coventry…
     
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  3. John 11:35

    John 11:35 Well-Known Member

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    dansafcman Well-Known Member

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    Welcome and good luck Mr Beale

    By all accounts a good coach, which is what we're looking for. As far as I can see, he had a 41% win rate at QPR, 70 at Rangers. Mowbray had a 40% win rate with us, and his career highest is 51% with Celtic.

    Dodds as assistant head coach is great as well. Will give Beale the insight he needs into the squad, and Dodds is heading in the right direction in becoming head coach

    It's definitely not any worse an appointment then an unknown Swedish manager with no experience in the English game.

    Potter would have been a wow appointment, but never likely to happen and I never took the links seriously

    W Still ? Obviously highly thought of, but sounded like he would have wanted a decisive say in recruitment and transfers. That's a no go with our current setup.

    Overall, I'm happy to sit back, enjoy and see what happens.
     
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  5. WorkyTicketFTM

    WorkyTicketFTM Well-Known Member

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    It doesn’t really, I don’t understand it myself. Their data from last season is very similar to Celtics, they actually had quite a more shots per 90 over the course of the season.

    In the league last season - which he only lost 2 times against Aberdeen and Celtic after taking over at the end of November. He picked up 59 points from 69 available.

    4 other losses were 2 cup finals to Celtic, 1 CL game and 1 Europa. 2 this season in league I think.
     
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  6. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Fair enough but it shouldn't ...

    ... if the supporters turn against him, after one game, it would be pathetic imo.
     
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  7. BRMC

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    Bang on.
     
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  8. Pure River Slut

    Pure River Slut Well-Known Member

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    Or wrong of course.
     
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  9. LD19SAFC

    LD19SAFC Well-Known Member

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    That won’t happen but it’s a crucial few weeks. Coventry, Hull, Rotherham and Preston before going into the derby.
     
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  10. GreyHorse

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    Saturday will be fine - the fans in the ground will get behind the team as per usual.

    Beale has strong coaching credentials with a recent blip as a manager. Lets face it, if he was a world class coach with an unblemished managerial record he would be nowhere near us.

    The appointment could be similar to some of the players we have signed in the last couple of years.....lost their way a bit but with lots of upside in the right environment.
     
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  11. young2077

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    We are a million miles away from competing at the top financially (there are teams owned by oil rich states in the Premier league ffs). We can never hope to compete at the top any other way than being a developing club buy players develop them into better which benefits the team on the pitch initially, then when they are sold it helps financially enabling us to buy a better starting level to develop.

    Also buying players and allowing them to move on when they have improved to the point the big clubs come calling means more players will see us as an attractive club to be at for their progression!
     
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  12. vic9

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    Well said marra,
     
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  13. Yorkie

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    Said this earlier. The Clarke of the coaching world. Hopefully now he's in the right place at the right time.
     
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  14. Culinary

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    Wait, where’s all the buzzwords?!
     
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  15. Chunksafc

    Chunksafc Well-Known Member

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    Regardless of his past success or failure, he's our head coach now and we back him till it goes wrong and we can't.

    Roll on Saturday and let's get 3 points to take into Christmas
     
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  16. Culinary

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    What the ****? This is mad. I think it’s been a ridiculous overreaction from our fans even if he was the crappest coach going but the more I read and the more I look at his record the more I realise he’s not even crap at all, not even a little bit.
     
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  17. GreyHorse

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    Agree and apart from a the select few clubs, pretty much every other club is a selling/feeder/development club to some degree.

    I don't get why people are suspicious of us buying players for nominal sums then working to increase their value (whether we sell them or not). Is it better to pay 10m for the likes of Jack Rodwell just to show that we are 'ambitious'?
     
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  18. Richie

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    Well said…I thought exactly the same….
     
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  19. Pure River Slut

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    Cockney in Glasgow
     
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  20. Oldsandy

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    I’m looking forward with optimism. I know a lot (maybe even the majority) of people on here don’t want Beal, but what do we know? The majority aren’t always right. I remember way back in the 60s when Sunderland were looking for a new manager. In the pub at lunchtime, as usual, various names were being suggested. I suggested Clough because he was doing good things at Hartlepool at the time, but my idea was dismissed without consideration because he didn’t have much experience! As I’ve just said - what do we know?
     
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