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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by FellTop, Nov 26, 2023.

  1. Southern A

    Southern A Well-Known Member

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    Just a gut feeling but I think Mike Dodds is going to continue to play a hugely important role - maybe even exceeding the role of a typical "assistant manager".

    Just from the wording and everything we know about the way the club operates. I just see Beale and Dodds working very much together. Beale obviously gets final say. But I think this will be different to a normal Manager / Assistant type relationship.

    Just a gut feel.
     
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  2. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    It shows that the club wants continuity, good luck to them both.
     
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  3. Southern A

    Southern A Well-Known Member

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    Also re: Dodds - "next step on his pathway" suggests to me a very real possibility that he's the person who takes over from Beale eventually.
     
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  4. LAMackem

    LAMackem Well-Known Member

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    Wish the lad well just don’t sack him if we hit a stick patch of results which tend to come when you’re playing young kids. Onward and upwards HTL!
     
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  5. John Wick

    John Wick Well-Known Member

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    Absolute fall out from Beales appointment is laughable. Its really quite simple, vote with your remotes next game and don't watch the illegal stream.
     
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  6. The Anilingus Aficionado

    The Anilingus Aficionado Official POTY 2011, 2014, 2015, 2018 & 2023

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    Beale told QPR fans that loyalty means a lot when he knocked back the Wolves job, then joined Rangers about a month later.

    Rangers were struggling last season under Gio Van Bronkhurst and Beale was in the stands at one of his final games which heaped pressure on Gio, who is a Rangers legend from his spell playing for us, then getting us to within a penalty kick of winning the Europa league.

    Beale took over and had a great spell of wins, but we lost every game that mattered, and he was up against Fat Ange's Celtic side who were utterly relentless, swatting away all the Scotch sides.

    Up until this season, Beale had the best win % of any manager in Scotch football history, but his signings in the close season have been truly awful, Jack Butland aside. Rangers got rid of 5 of our top scorers during the close season and replaced them with guys who had poor goal return stats already, so God knows what Beale saw in them.

    This season under Beale, there looked like there was issues even during close season where we were dreadful to watch. He got us through to the CL play off versus PSV. We drew 2-2 at Ibrox but get raped in Eindhoven (PSV are having a great season). In the league, we started off the season with a visit to Kilmarnock, he rested one of our best players in Cantwell, and we got beat, we then lost to Celtic at Ibrox (another game that mattered) and then to Aberdeen at home too which meant that we lost 3 out of 7 league games, and we were really poor to watch.

    Plus for this season was we beat Real Betis in the Europa but he left before any more EL games.

    Beale was a great coach and had a genuine affinity to our Club from his spell as Sneaky G's coaching staff, it was a shame that it didn't work out for us.I remain sceptical if he is actually able to head up as a manager but wish him and you all the best for the rest of the season.

    Good luck
    @Sheds
     
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  7. John Wick

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    Beale and Dodds sounds like a solicitors.
     
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  8. master-simpson

    master-simpson Well-Known Member

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    Others may call you a moron for your willingness to accept such an uninspiring appointment.

    I hope he does well anarl, coz at the end of the day I love SAFC 1st & foremost.

    it’s a forum and everyone is entitled to their opinion without being bad-mouthed.

    Bart
     
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  9. rowley

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    Remember SA, that twaterers, and other Internet obsessives amount to a small and profoundly unrepresentative sample of the full body.

    Many of them won't go, some would winge if we won the Cup but only 1-0 instead of 2-0, and some will be mags, many of whom have rather empty lives.
     
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  10. TopClub

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    Could be the beginning of our “boot room”
     
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  11. TeamOfTalents

    TeamOfTalents Well-Known Member

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    Bit like Marley & Scrooge
     
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  12. Southern A

    Southern A Well-Known Member

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    You are right... but on Saturday the only mention of Michael Beale I heard all day was in the toilets with one bloke saying "aye that Micky Beale can **** right off". Just one guy for sure, but its not JUST on twitter. There's an undercurrent of people that are against it I think purely because of who he isn't rather than who he is.
     
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  13. Prehab26

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    Length of contract a big surprise in all of this.
     
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  14. Southern A

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    Yes, surprised me. They must be confident in him. Its actually quite reassuring in a weird way.
     
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    Mind it still is absurd and laughable <laugh>
     
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  16. Pure River Slut

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    Not if they genuinely believe in him.
     
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  17. Coastal Dolphins

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    This is one of the most underwhelming appointments they could have made at this point,imo.

    Hope he gets results obviously but this whole process disproves the having a plan and someone lined up stuff Speakman blabbed on about last year.

    Actually a bit concerned how this will go short term, personally.
     
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  18. Southern A

    Southern A Well-Known Member

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    No it doesn't. Having a plan and then being able to bring in the exact person you want are two seperate things. And Speakman literally says in his statement that he's been tracking Beale for a long time.

    Two other clubs sacked their managers around the time we sacked Mowbray, and they havent appointed yet. So its also incorrect to think this appointment took a disproportionately long time.
     
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  19. Chunksafc

    Chunksafc Well-Known Member

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    Suprised he isnt bringing any of his previous staff with him.

    You would have assumed he was bringing at least his assistant, but with Dodds being promoted then there wasn't a role.

    We all need to give him time to implement his ideas
     
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  20. Prehab26

    Prehab26 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah me too. I think a load are. Its rare you see such vitriol across all forms of media, multiple platforms. Mostly saying the same thing, poor appointment and wont last the contract length.

    really hope he proves us wrong and is a success but, its really hard to see so many unbiased reports saying this is a poor appointment and will wear thin quickly.
     
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