They can't stop them coming in boats. Now they can't stop them going out from prison. 
Pleased I'm not working at WandsworthThey can't stop them coming in boats. Now they can't stop them going out from prison.![]()
Voter apathy is frustrating, but under the democtatic system we operate a minority can win. Take Brexit for example, probably the most polarising issue in my lifetime, it was won by just over 37% of the electorate.That’s scary to think someone’s going to get power even though possibly 60 70 or even more % of the population don’t support them .
A non of the above option would at least send a message to Westminster that the electorate is not happy with the way any party is likely to treat us.Voter apathy is frustrating, but under the democtatic system we operate a minority can win. Take Brexit for example, probably the most polarising issue in my lifetime, it was won by just over 37% of the electorate.
I'd prefer compulsory voting with an abstain (or none of the above) option.
The operative word there was "power" before any of the usual suspects come along with their "But Labour" defence.![]()

Potentially but only on the percentages they exist in a democratic process, so a voice but no power. They have a voice anyway online but rarely get challenged on their fake memes and false statements. It’s the beliefs that exist that make people vote that way. I’d argue Johnson Truss and Kwarteng were lunatics to be honest. With PR at least it’s a more balanced representation of the national view. It’s rare that the elected party have the majority support of the country which I think is a bit lunatic on it’s own, it should be more like the reflective view of the nation which I’d say strengthen the middle. People say it may affect local representation but you’d still have councillors and in reality a lot of career politicians are shipped in to seats anyway.Got to be honest don’t know the ins and outs of PR , could someone confirm that this would mean the lunatic left and right could possibly have a platform in Westminster
Launched in Barnard Castle with the backing of Specsavers no doubt.Dominic Cummins want to start a new political party to replace the rotten horror show of the Torry party.
To be informally called The Start up Party, and be in place by Christmas.
Not sure whether to laugh, or cry.
Launched in Barnard Castle with the backing of Specsavers no doubt.![]()

TBF to Stewart, he talked about this with Alastair Campbell on their podcast recently. Campbell also spoke about his experience of MPs and their struggles with mental health including suicidal thoughts.Did someone say 'memoir to promote'
"The former Conservative minister Rory Stewart has said some fellow MPs came very close to killing themselves when he was in the Commons, and the life of a politician placed an “almost unsustainable” strain on people.
Stewart, who was international development secretary and stood to be Tory leader before leaving the Commons in 2019, said other former colleagues experienced “total breakdowns in public”.
Speaking to GB News before the publication of a new memoir, Stewart discussed the mental health toll on MPs. He said: “I don’t want to talk about the specifics because this is deeply personal to people but, yes, colleagues tried to kill themselves."
TBF to Stewart, he talked about this with Alastair Campbell on their podcast recently. Campbell also spoke about his experience of MPs and their struggles with mental health including suicidal thoughts.
Appreciate Campbell is a controversial figure but I'll listen to what he has to say. Also have a lot of time for Stewart, his brand of one nation Conservatism is far more palatable than the current **** show.
Not disagreeing with that necessarily, and maybe my viewpoint comes from a different persp. My late uncle was an MP (labour), came from a mining community, did 20+ years down the pit then went into politics representing his community. Poor bloke only wanted to do his best for his people, ended up being wheelchaired through the voting lobby when terminally ill for a crucial vote. ****s
He talked to me about the pressure he faced mentally. We're far better at recognising strain in mental health now. We should learn from it.
The last thing I'll add about my uncle is they he rented a room from a landlady in Plumstead. Nee apartment in Vauxhall or nowt like thatThat's very fair mate and I wouldn't want to denigrate the decent politicians, of which there are many ...
... more than people believe imo.