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I wonder if the above examples of police not taking action whether it be in the UK or across the pond is, or will, lead to vigilante attacks
Absofuckinglutly! What next! Bloody hell Vin's been posting graphs with verifiable sources. It's got to stop I tell you stop!
Not working today so we had people over for dinner last night. I came up with a question that was genuinely intriguing. We were discussing it on and off all evening.
Can you name an aspect of life where things were better fifty years ago? 1973 v 2023.
We came up with a handful but not many.
Vin
Can you name an aspect of life where things were better fifty years ago? 1973 v 2023.
We came up with a handful but not many.
Vin
Don’t we still have all that music though? Plus more? So can’t we say today is better?
The music industry was miles better, and the music produced as a result now isn’t.
Contemporary music
Although with the passing of time we got to forget some of the worst music of 73 and remember the best
I grew up in the 80s. It felt like a time of abject poverty. Everything was grey, except the ridiculously bright fashions.
The films were better, but, as I just said to LTL, we still have those so they enrich the present. The biggest difference is that social media has ruined childhood.
I got bullied at school, but I was safe at home. Now you are bullied 24 hours a day. I had no connection to the depravity that kids see constantly. I grew up in a time where a little boy could stay a little boy until his teens. Where the internet hadn’t corrupted everything into fear and sex and fear of sex.
But like I said, we still have it. The industry being worse I accept, but we haven’t lost the music of the 70s.
A thing which is worse for sure is festivals. My parents had a little caravan and sold vegetarian food at all the big festivals in the early 80s and left us kids wandering about. You couldn’t do that now.
My son would disagree with you. He'd call you a boring out-of-touch old fart. He certainly does me.
But there's a balance. My son and daughter have more connections to more people than I ever imagined. I lived a long way from my school and I remember summer holidays where I never saw a person from school. Our kids lived a similar distance but were always in touch.
It's a rare technology that only has negative impact. (And equally rarely that one is only positive).
Vin
And I would respond that I am currently only managing young bands, no heritage ones, so therefore I know of what I speak! I’d also point him toward the streaming charts, and album charts, which are dominated by older music. So thats what his contemporaries are listening to as well.
There is. I see a lot of damage and a lot of positives from the net. But at its worst it is really horrifying.
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I loved festivals until they became more organised (and yes allegedly safer) in the late 80s. Favourites were Glastonbury before they became 'policed', and the early Fairport Convention ones.
I can't convince myself that motorcycles have improved (apart from emissions?) since the 70s/80s. My ex-police Triumph 650 Tiger from 1980 remains a life highpoint.
We could walk up to Lords and other sporting venues on the day, buy a ticket and have a reasonably priced glass of beer or two.
Schad, It’s not clear to me what point your making here.
There will always be geopolitical strife. Unfortunately world peace is a long way off.
I’m talking about the fundamental building blocks of how UK society is functioning.
For example:
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There are many, many more stats which point to the decline of overall of living standards and society in general. We used to be a great country that led by example.
Now we outsource manufacturing, we consume more than we spend, living standards are declining across the board when compared with countries that we should be competing with.
Yes I agree that technology has improved life exponentially and that we live in technically the best time in human history.
But what I’m saying is that the current system is not allowing us to feel the full benefits of the technological advances. Most of the benefits are being eked away by those closer to the money spigot.
Waiting times should be DOWN. Roads should be improving. Trains and services should be MUCH better than 1974 based on the rate of change in technology. Yet we are being held back by a broken financial & political system which is no longer fit for purpose.
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The profound irony that you are complaining primarily about public services while also preaching that taxation is theft.