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Match Day Thread Sheff Utd v Hull City
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I don't think he is at all. But it's the middle of Jan and it's always tough to do business. I think if somebody came in with an offer to take Woods, he'd be gone tomorrow
For all the clamouring for Tufan to start, when he came on he was presented several chances to shoot and he instead passed it backwards or sideways. Not sure what people are seeing in him that they think is amazingly more creative or solid than Slater who actually tries to get forward.
I just don't get how this is new to you. Do you not remember Koren being benched at times for Alex Bruce and Meyler to play in midfield? Or Bullard sitting on the bench because Ashbee and James Harper were the favoured combination? It happens all the time at every club. Very often the most talented midfielder isn't the most effective and they struggle to get a place. Rosenior has come in with no prior connection to these players and decided that he prefers Slater to Tufan. He isn't doing it for a laugh, he obviously thinks he offers us more.
There was a moment tonight where Berge just breezed past Tufan with a single touch and he just didn't seem to have the energy or fight to do anything about it, that kind of thing might be part of why he's often left out. You can say that we've been equalising in home games after he's come on, but equally it's true that we've been getting those equalisers after League 1 Lewie has come on every time. A question of cause and effect perhaps.
Liam has realised Tufan is more effective coming on when the opposition is starting to tire in the 2nd half. He doesn't give as you say 90 minute of energy like the likes of Slater or Docherty. Slater does a lot of unnoticed work and usually makes himself available, often just a simple pass but it has its purpose.
First and foremost I thought it was a very good game to watch, and a real derby game with all that goes with them. After a sluggish start, when we were caught on the hop for the goal, I thought we slowly grew into the game and 2nd half was the better team.
Such a shame Tetteh rose to McBirnie's obvious ploy to unsettle him. They saw Tetteh was causing problems, and I am sure McBirnie was told to go and ruffle his feathers. Probably not to get him sent off, just to upset the rhythm of the game, as we were building pressure on them. However, Tetteh did the stupid thing and was goaded into reacting. He's a big loss now for 3 games, he needs to learn quickly from this.
That aside I thought we performed well, standout for me were Ingram/Jones/Seri and Connolly, also Longman when he came on. I really like Connolly he is a real nuisance and can see why Liam brought him in. Given 2 or 3 matches, he could well play a big part.
I am not sure about the Coyle/Christie combination on the right, I just feel it doesn't work so well. Longman on the right looked like a real threat, so Malcolm or Ryan ahead of Christie looks like a better bet maybe.
I agree with those saying Seri needs to be taken off free kicks, he just doesn't seem to get the right delivery. When Elder and Honeyman were combining the deliveries were much better, so we need to find a similar option to improve the ball into the box.
Overall nothing to complain about the performance, we gave a very good team a real game, and on another day may well have got a point, and on balance, what we probably deserved last night.
Such a shame Tetteh rose to McBirnie's obvious ploy to unsettle him. They saw Tetteh was causing problems, and I am sure McBirnie was told to go and ruffle his feathers. Probably not to get him sent off, just to upset the rhythm of the game, as we were building pressure on them. However, Tetteh did the stupid thing and was goaded into reacting. He's a big loss now for 3 games, he needs to learn quickly from this.
That aside I thought we performed well, standout for me were Ingram/Jones/Seri and Connolly, also Longman when he came on. I really like Connolly he is a real nuisance and can see why Liam brought him in. Given 2 or 3 matches, he could well play a big part.
I am not sure about the Coyle/Christie combination on the right, I just feel it doesn't work so well. Longman on the right looked like a real threat, so Malcolm or Ryan ahead of Christie looks like a better bet maybe.
I agree with those saying Seri needs to be taken off free kicks, he just doesn't seem to get the right delivery. When Elder and Honeyman were combining the deliveries were much better, so we need to find a similar option to improve the ball into the box.
Overall nothing to complain about the performance, we gave a very good team a real game, and on another day may well have got a point, and on balance, what we probably deserved last night.
I also have no idea what people see in Tufan, I’ve seen him lose loads of 50/50s, I’ve never seen the bloke play a key pass in a game (which the stats support). He never makes a pass more than 5 yards. He lacks drive and energy when he starts which both Doc and Slater have in abundance. Doc isn’t the answer long term, obviously and Slater needs to stop been played out of position but for Tufan to play in the higher echelons for a decade he is overall very poor. If someone offered me over 1 mill I’d snap their hand off.
Tufan could be massive for us this season.
But it's consistency over 60 mins that's stopping him starting...
If that makes sense.
But he's foreign so he should be in the team. The game changed when he came on.. because of Longman.
I wasn't even aware Slater was playing in the first half until I saw the teams walking off at HT.
I think Rosenior's primary plan with that starting 11 was to match their energy. It sounds like Sheff have been steamrolling teams of late and I could sense that from their play in the early part of the game. I thought that the players put in a phenomenal effort against a team fighting for top honours. From what their presenters and manager were saying, many teams have gone there and parked the bus, Norwich included, so I'm delighted that we went toe for toe with them. Many other teams may have suffered a hammering for attempting such bold tactics.
Yes, there was a limited final product, but I am confident it will come sooner rather than later.
Yes, there was a limited final product, but I am confident it will come sooner rather than later.
Re Berge.. thats why Liverpool were/are wanting him (likely to replace Henderson at some stage)... but funnily, the Sheff Utd boards were saying he's been really poor of late. He breezes past people because he takes half the strides of other players... to my eyes at least..
BTW .. NO MOM thread..?
BTW .. NO MOM thread..?
For all the moaning on here about how many awful players we apparently have, Sheff U fans seemed to think we played ok.
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I thought we played really well. Just still missing that bit of quality in the final 3rd (final ball and finish). A draw would have been a fair result.
Like most clubs we have our share who seemingly hate the team, players and staff and like it that way.
Was there some trouble on the concourse.... comment made about them shutting refreshment stalls...