Match Day Thread Sheff Utd v Hull City

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he knows what he gets and we drop points at home against far lesser opponents, the points salvaged in two of the games when Tufan came on. Play with some balls and pick wins up. He’s terrified to me and seems tactically inept apart from shoring things up a bit.

Rosenior is one of the most tactically astute managers we've had. Your interpretation of tactics seems to be play all the attacking players (regardless of fitness) and we'll magically get 3 points.
 
Think of the context of when you've seen those 2 paired together. It's when we've been chasing games, of course teams are going to sit off and they'll have more time to dictate play.

I think our best XI involves some combination of those 2, but it's about finding the balance. When Rosenior came in he had to stop us shipping goals or we were heading down. He favoured Doc over someone like Tufan as he knew what he'll get, even if not as technically good.
Tufan is amongst the most exciting players I’ve seen at City in nearly 50 years. It’s a pleasure to see someone as gifted with the ball. It’s also great to see him trying to get himself fit and clearly buying into our ethos. I’ve seen him chase back for lost causes. Some on here though have also noticed he also has a knack of just losing concentration and forgetting to close down a player or back track.
The game has changed. Best XI does not exist anymore. Tufan atm is suited to coming on for the second half/ 60 mins.
 
Rosenior is one of the most tactically astute managers we've had. Your interpretation of tactics seems to be play all the attacking players (regardless of fitness) and we'll magically get 3 points.

It isn’t, I just think it’s a bit of a myth, I personally think he goes before he gets us up and would be willing to take cash bets on it. Can’t adjust aside from making us sturdy. Soon as we need to create the blokes lost.
 
Seri has surprised me several times recently, either nipping in when looking second favourite or holding off someone twice the size of him. He's just an all round excellent player, who we're lucky to have.

I think a Tufan and Seri pairing has potential and would like to see it explored. Now is the perfect time to experiment, as we're realistically not going down and not getting play offs. But away at the probably he best team in the league, whilst on a 7 game unbeaten away run isn't the best time to start tinkering

I completely agree and I said as such as few games ago. We've got 18 championship games to test and try things ahead of next season. It's why I didn't really understand the Malcolm signing, by the time we have him our playoff chances have gone and we'll only be able to keep him next year if he's ****
 
Tufan is amongst the most exciting players I’ve seen at City in nearly 50 years. It’s a pleasure to see someone as gifted with the ball. It’s also great to see him trying to get himself fit and clearly buying into our ethos. I’ve seen him chase back for lost causes. Some on here though have also noticed he also has a knack of just losing concentration and forgetting to close down a player or back track.
The game has changed. Best XI does not exist anymore. Tufan atm is suited to coming on for the second half/ 60 mins.

That is exactly what Slater did today though and cost us a draw. That's meant to be his game too and what he's in the team for. The 50/50 he lost today in the lead-up to their goal is inexcusable.
 
Seri has surprised me several times recently, either nipping in when looking second favourite or holding off someone twice the size of him. He's just an all round excellent player, who we're lucky to have.

I think a Tufan and Seri pairing has potential and would like to see it explored. Now is the perfect time to experiment, as we're realistically not going down and not getting play offs. But away at the probably he best team in the league, whilst on a 7 game unbeaten away run isn't the best time to start tinkering
The first twenty minutes when we were under the cosh and Seri was struggling to give the defence some support, Doc was battling away, I’m not sure Seri would want Tufan alongside him.
 
The first twenty minutes when we were under the cosh and Seri was struggling to give the defence some support, Doc was battling away, I’m not sure Seri would want Tufan alongside him.

the doc battles cause he can’t keep the ball for toffee
 
That is exactly what Slater did today though and cost us a draw. That's meant to be his game too and what he's in the team for. The 50/50 he lost today in the lead-up to their goal is inexcusable.
The biggest part of that goal was Jones getting involved in marking their left winger while Coyle had him well marked, thus leaving Macca absolutely exposed.
 
The biggest part of that goal was Jones getting involved in marking their left winger while Coyle had him well marked, thus leaving Macca absolutely exposed.

It was Slater losing a 50/50 and then neither him or Doch tracked that man who was free.

I expect the ball winner in the side to properly compete in a 50/50, and if that was a Sheff Utd player, the likes of Norwood would have crunched into the tackle and broken the game up.
 
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the doc battles cause he can’t keep the ball for toffee
We return to the old needing an ‘Ashbee’ alongside Seri. We haven’t got one. Who have we got then? When we’re under the cosh away from home? We have tried several different options, but no resolution yet. Woods did ok, but too similar to Seri, Doc can’t keep the ball, Slater too maybe. Tufan doesn’t have the discipline. I am surprised we don’t seem to be going for someone in this position.
 
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We return to the old needing an ‘Ashbee’ alongside Seri. We haven’t got one. Who have we got then? When we’re under the cosh away from home? We have tried several different options, but no resolution yet. Woods did ok, but too similar to Seri, Doc can’t keep the ball, Slater too maybe. Tufan doesn’t have the discipline. I am surprised we don’t seem to be going for someone in this position.

Simons is that type I guess but won't be fully there for a couple of years. Needs to be addressed in summer, if not this next fortnight.
 
I completely agree and I said as such as few games ago. We've got 18 championship games to test and try things ahead of next season. It's why I didn't really understand the Malcolm signing, by the time we have him our playoff chances have gone and we'll only be able to keep him next year if he's ****

I wouldn’t be surprised to see him go out on loan again next season, players his age need to be playing games. A good 6 months with us will probably put us front of the queue.

Zaha leaving does complicate things, but I imagine they’ll spend.
 
We return to the old needing an ‘Ashbee’ alongside Seri. We haven’t got one. Who have we got then? When we’re under the cosh away from home? We have tried several different options, but no resolution yet. Woods did ok, but too similar to Seri, Doc can’t keep the ball, Slater too maybe. Tufan doesn’t have the discipline. I am surprised we don’t seem to be going for someone in this position.

i genuinely see it as a trope, alongside the other 3 he’s probs second in terms of winning and chasing (doc first) but has far greater on the ball quality. He’s a physical presence who chases and puts himself around. Was after it often today for me.
 
This rubbish about the ball boys is so strange, we got the ball back quickly when we had throw ins today, so no idea what you're on about. Every time they took us out they got booked so I'm quite happy we didn't have 8 players on yellow cards by following suit.

For all they 'added up' Sheff U clung onto an early goal at home against a side sat 16th, so can't have helped them too much.
 
This rubbish about the ball boys is so strange, we got the ball back quickly when we had throw ins today, so no idea what you're on about. Every time they took us out they got booked so I'm quite happy we didn't have 8 players on yellow cards by following suit.

For all they 'added up' Sheff U clung onto an early goal at home against a side sat 16th, so can't have helped them too much.