Dr Strangelove (how I learned to stop worrying and love Boris)

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polyphemus said:
I don't know anyone who thinks that the Capitalist/Democratic system we live in is perfect, but till some bright soul comes up with a better one, it's the one we have to make the best of.

The modern alternatives appear to be --

Dictatorship - tends to lead to a relatively small group gathering in most of the wealth leading to more poverty.

Comunism.- In practice this has tended to end up with a dictatorship under a different name.

Marxism. -While I am neither a Marxist or Biblical Scholar, I have always understood that there are great similarities in The Surmon on the Mount/Plain and Marxist principals.
This philosophy though requires that ALL the people are without any of those 'vices' that abound in the real world. Greed for example.

My only hope is that over time Humanity will improve the capitalist system, to the point that it's worst excesses are curbed.
But I am not expecting to see it happen.
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I think a benevolent dictatorship with me as El Presidente is the only way forwards.
 
I think we'll see some big populist decisions from Truss in the next couple of weeks to get herself off to a good start. The scaremongering over energy bills has been so high over the last few months with so little offered by Boris Johnson's government, that a big energy plan that "only" sees bills go up by 50% will be welcomed widely.

Getting rid of Patel and Dorries from the cabinet is hugely popular in my household too!
 
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Flash Gordon said:
I think we'll see some big populist decisions from Truss in the next couple of weeks to get herself off to a good start. The scaremongering over energy bills has been so high over the last few months with so little offered by Boris Johnson's government, that a big energy plan that "only" sees bills go up by 50% will be welcomed widely.

Getting rid of Patel and Dorries from the cabinet is hugely popular in my household too!
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It looks like Truss is going to “borrow” Starmers policy to freeze the energy cap, following the borrowing of his windfall tax on energy companies, not bad going for a beige bloke with no policies
 
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No mate bone idle are the lazy ****ers who sit on their arse every day because they are better of on benefits paid for by hard working tax payers, if you have any kind of condition, physically or mentally that stops you working I'd be more than happy for you to recieve any benefit possible to make your life as good as possible, if you choose not to work because you are demotivated or lazy and better off on benefits the no I've would have no reason to want to help
Pure River Slut said:
Does bone idle mean demotivated? Or is it different ? Is bone idle where you choose to be in poverty ?
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Iain said:
No mate bone idle are the lazy ****ers who sit on their arse every day because they are better of on benefits paid for by hard working tax payers, if you have any kind of condition, physically or mentally that stops you working I'd be more than happy for you to recieve any benefit possible to make your life as good as possible, if you choose not to work because you are demotivated or lazy and better off on benefits the no I've would have no reason to want to help
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Aye but there’s a very high bar, a poor system of help finding people, a reluctance for people to access services. It’s far from being black and white
 
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Best uncapped Keeper said:
Impressed with the economic nous of our leaders. Both going to Aberdeen and returning each in a private jet which were parked side by side on the tarmac! Of course it's just tax payers money.
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And going to the queens estate which also drains a big chunk. I bet they all have plenty of new kettles and radiator liner.
 
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Pure River Slut said:
And going to the queens estate which also drains a big chunk. I bet they all have plenty of new kettles and radiator liner.
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then of course, they can claim on many things to also help them out.

i think it is well past the time that ALL MP's expense claims are made public...after all, it is tax payers money as well!!-
 
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samwise_new said:
then of course, they can claim on many things to also help them out.

i think it is well past the time that ALL MP's expense claims are made public...after all, it is tax payers money as well!!-
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I actually meant the royals are a massive drain. They specify what they spend their money on but agreed with MP’s. Mon alcoholic drinks only at the bar, buy their own food, a reasonable maximum on all other things like accommodation.and travel.
 
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Pure River Slut said:
Aye but there’s a very high bar, a poor system of help finding people, a reluctance for people to access services. It’s far from being black and white
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I won't disagree with that. Something needs sorted where not matter what your ability is if you are prepared to work as hard as you can depending on your capability then you are rewarded, if you want to sit on your backside and take whatever comes your way then you shouldn't.
Yes its not as black and white as that but I'm sure most people know of someone playing the system and reaping the rewards for doing jack ****, the same as we will know people that a working 2 and 3 jobs to keep their heads above water.
No matter what the system people will play it but I'm sure most of us could come up with a better one than is place at the moment.
If you are physically and mentally able to work it should always be beneficial to you if you do rather than look at a job and realise you would end up with less money than you would be on benefits
 
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Iain said:
I won't disagree with that. Something needs sorted where not matter what your ability is if you are prepared to work as hard as you can depending on your capability then you are rewarded, if you want to sit on your backside and take whatever comes your way then you shouldn't.
Yes its not as black and white as that but I'm sure most people know of someone playing the system and reaping the rewards for doing jack ****, the same as we will know people that a working 2 and 3 jobs to keep their heads above water.
No matter what the system people will play it but I'm sure most of us could come up with a better one than is place at the moment.
If you are physically and mentally able to work it should always be beneficial to you if you do rather than look at a job and realise you would end up with less money than you would be on benefits
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I'm 66 and still working because I refuse to claim benefits.

My brother in law is around the same age, never worked and claims everything going. His wife, who's never worked, claims everything, is paid as his carer and has a brand new car on Motability I help pay for.

We've created a mentality whereby people are proud to 'work the system' <doh>
 
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Smug in Boots said:
I'm 66 and still working because I refuse to claim benefits.

My brother in law is around the same age, never worked and claims everything going. His wife, who's never worked, claims everything, is paid as his carer and has a brand new car on Motability I help pay for.

We've created a mentality whereby people are proud to 'work the system' <doh>
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Which proves how wrong the system is, although it boils my piss the amount of people that do it, you can also see why they do it
 
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samwise_new said:
then of course, they can claim on many things to also help them out.

i think it is well past the time that ALL MP's expense claims are made public...after all, it is tax payers money as well!!-
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I believe their expenses are in effect ''signed off'' by persons assumedly independent. I think they should also be identified as they are the ones who allow things through that aren't allowed in the rule book. They need to justify or be sacked for not knowing or applying those rules.
 
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