Off Topic Bill Nicholson Arms
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"These are my goji berries. There are many like them, but these are mine"
I asked a buddy, a Marine captain, about Marine drill instructors. He said, "Every drill instructor is expected to develop his own brand of sadism."
But not punch underage recruits, which the MoD are currently dealing with...
So won't the real Pierluigi Gollini please stand up, please stand up
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Not these days. Until fairly recently, it would have been tacitly condoned.
I'm old and have seen all sorts of protections arise. When I went to school, teachers punching students was tolerated, not to mention sleeping with them. On the other hand, people didn't laugh off two of my classmates setting another on fire. They wondered, strangely from my POV, why they weren't actually in school at the time.
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It was in the news a couple of days ago
https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/local-news/harrogate-army-instructor-punched-teen-22114804
Would it have been ok if they'd have set each other on fire in school, then?
Strange place to draw the line, but each to their own, I guess.
Not bad as Goal of the Months go
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Sadly it's only bad news about the Army that gets into the news. Assaulting recruits, abusing prisoners, shooting people in Northern Ireland decades ago. Recognition of service? A diminishing number of people wearing a poppy a couple of weeks a year, and a government that really doesn't care about veterans. I can tell you from personal experience that the veteran community are mightily pissed off, and a number of marches in support of those being prosecuted haven't even been reported by the BBC. Meanwhile more ex-soldiers die from suicide than enemy action.
Just a thought as we approach 11/11.
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It's the 12th, Vim.
I am beyond the limits of the conventional calendar.
Or it's a leap remembrance year.
Or I'm thinking of next year.
Anyway, it applies at any time of the year.
Veterans should be looked after and cared for. It is shocking how many end up homeless, drug or alcohol dependent and suicidal.
However, soldiers who have broken laws while serving (whether local laws or international laws) should absolutely be prosecuted.
This next bit not aimed at you, but an explanation of one of your other points.
I chose not to wear a poppy cos I watch politicians who are happy to vote for wars, speak in favour of them, even lie in favour of them and then condemn those who disagree as "fascist appeasers" .
They ignore the fact that our country supported and sold weapons to these lunatics like Galtieri (Argentina), Hussain (iraq) and the Taliban (Afghanistan) when it suited us.
Happened with the Falklands, the 1st Gulf War, Afghanistan and Iraq.
Yet the same politicians all wear the poppy and then allow Veterans to rot.
They are hypocrites. And in my opinion, anyone who shares their views and then wears a poppy is a hypocrite.
I give money to Veteran charities but do not wear the poppy.
And tbh it pisses me off that my choice is condemned by these hypocrites
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I don't wear a poppy for three reasons
1.) The British Legion can be dodgy, as they receive sponsorship from arms manufacturers (which really needs to be in the Guinness Book for missing the point on a Herculean scale) and there's at least one example of their head using their position to get kickbacks in arms deals
2.) The odds are that, when you do buy or wear one, there's always a poppy fascist telling you that you're showing respect "wrong", be it not donating "enough" when the Legion says that £1 is fine, to complaining that you're being "disrespectful" as the leaf isn't pointing to 11 and instead pointing to half past two because life tends to cause things to get buffeted around, so I just can't be bothered with that ****
3.) People using Remembrance Day as a stick to beat people with, with the Daily Wail manufacturing some bullshit every year about Jeremy Corbyn at the Cenotaph (not bowing "enough", wearing an M&S coat not being "respectful", Photoshopping it so he looked like he was dancing) while the Express used it to attack Meghan Markle because her face wasn't "respectful" enough...unlike Kate's perfectly "respectful" face, a comment which caused dogs across the country to start howling
And, right on cue, here's an example of the sort of poppy fascism I'm talking about
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