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I did buy two bottles of wine for the w/e instead of one though, so maybe the panic is catching.

I did something pretty similar - Mrs No7 sent me to Waitrose, Sainsbury's and Aldi to get food (she did though make sure i bought toilet roll, even though we have 48 rolls in the house...it is just the two of us...)

I bought 6 Chianti from Sainsburys, 3 'Rich Italian Red' from Waitrose, and 12 of my favourite Aimione Italian red from Aldi.

Panic over.
 
I did something pretty similar - Mrs No7 sent me to Waitrose, Sainsbury's and Aldi to get food (she did though make sure i bought toilet roll, even though we have 48 rolls in the house...it is just the two of us...)

I bought 6 Chianti from Sainsburys, 3 'Rich Italian Red' from Waitrose, and 12 of my favourite Aimione Italian red from Aldi.

Panic over.

Is it like this, in your house?

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Talking to my wife’s Oncolgy consultant, this morning.
He has the inside track on what is happening in Italy, his wife being Italian and having family there, and he thinks we will follow pretty much the same route the Italians are taking, with regards to closing down public places.
In Italy, my wife’s appointment, for example, would have been cancelled, as are most non urgent appointments/procedures.
In C3, Hamwic ward, where the chemotherapy is carried out, they are starting to implement a segregation zone, with anyone with a respiratory infection being herded together, away from those that don’t. Those on chemotherapy will be extremely vulnerable, owing to the way the chemotherapy attacks the blood cells, so this segregation will be needed to try to keep them safer.
I gather that it isn’t the same as flu, where you would expect to have a sore throat, sinus problems and a throaty cough. The cough is more centralised in the chest and you become feverish.
On a positive note, my wife has been given the all clear, for the time being, with a scan planned for the end of May. :emoticon-0148-yes:

That's brilliant news Badger. Delighted for you both <hug>
 
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I did something pretty similar - Mrs No7 sent me to Waitrose, Sainsbury's and Aldi to get food (she did though make sure i bought toilet roll, even though we have 48 rolls in the house...it is just the two of us...)

I bought 6 Chianti from Sainsburys, 3 'Rich Italian Red' from Waitrose, and 12 of my favourite Aimione Italian red from Aldi.

Panic over.

Expecting a win tomorrow then :emoticon-0105-wink:
 
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That's brilliant news Badger. Delighted for you both <hug>

Thank you. We always go with trepidation, then come away with silly grins, when the news is good.
I think the oncologist is puzzled as my wife’s illness, to date, has never followed the pattern that it is normally expected to follow.
I may have mentioned this before, but he uses her as a test case for his doctors, to see if they would have followed the same course of treatment that he prescribed.
 
Thank you. We always go with trepidation, then come away with silly grins, when the news is good.
I think the oncologist is puzzled as my wife’s illness, to date, has never followed the pattern that it is normally expected to follow.
I may have mentioned this before, but he uses her as a test case for his doctors, to see if they would have followed the same course of treatment that he prescribed.
That really is good news Badger. It will be made even better this weekend with the football :)
 
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Currently at maccas... (I forgot how much they chow after birth!?!?!?!??)
I cant show you pictures for ovb reasons.
But shes a good looking gal, good omens for today surely!!
 
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One question about the problem in Australia....why toilet rolls? Diarrhoea isn't one of the symptoms as far as I know. And surely a single spare pack or two would be enough if you were asked to self-isolate.

You tell me about it Fran! Went to a super market yesterday went down an isle for wipes. The row opposite the wipes was totally empty. A row about 30/40 yards long!!! Unbelievable........Apparently people here believe the toilet rolls are all made in China. Except for the ones they find in the super markets??? The fact is Australia does not import toilet rolls at all never has done. They’re all made in Australia locally. Media doing its false bit again!!!!
 
I really hate the state of things are but yea.....

Not all relevant.. but **** me I agree!

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Hello from the dark continent .... I’m “self-isolating” for the next 8 weeks by taking myself out into the wilds of Kwazulu-Natal in the beautiful country of South Africa where I shall be accompanied only by game rangers (who are out there all the time) and a few other volunteers (who I shall watch closely for coughs and sneezes). It’s fairly likely that I shall have only sporadic internet access and I’m back mid May when I hope to see our wonderful team fighting for a European place. it seems to be that I’ve made a good choice as there is currently no panic buying here (I travel up country tomorrow) and only 1 confirmed case (a man who arrived back from Italy and is now recovering) so I’m hoping it’ll all be over and done with when I come home!
All the best folks - I’ll post when I can! :emoticon-0103-cool:
 
This is an excellent post from someone who, y’know, might know some things.


I'm a doctor and an Infectious Diseases Specialist. I've been at this for more than 20 years seeing sick patients on a daily basis. I have worked in inner city hospitals and in the poorest slums of Africa. HIV-AIDS, Hepatitis,TB, SARS, Measles, Shingles, Whooping cough, Diphtheria...there is little I haven't been exposed to in my profession. And with notable exception of SARS, very little has left me feeling vulnerable, overwhelmed or downright scared.

I am not scared of Covid-19. I am concerned about the implications of a novel infectious agent that has spread the world over and continues to find new footholds in different soil. I am rightly concerned for the welfare of those who are elderly, in frail health or disenfranchised who stand to suffer mostly, and disproportionately, at the hands of this new scourge. But I am not scared of Covid-19.

What I am scared about is the loss of reason and wave of fear that has induced the masses of society into a spellbinding spiral of panic, stockpiling obscene quantities of anything that could fill a bomb shelter adequately in a post-apocalyptic world. I am scared of the N95 masks that are stolen from hospitals and urgent care clinics where they are actually needed for front line healthcare providers and instead are being donned in airports, malls, and coffee lounges, perpetuating even more fear and suspicion of others. I am scared that our hospitals will be overwhelmed with anyone who thinks they " probably don't have it but may as well get checked out no matter what because you just never know..." and those with heart failure, emphysema, pneumonia and strokes will pay the price for overfilled ER waiting rooms with only so many doctors and nurses to assess.

I am scared that travel restrictions will become so far reaching that weddings will be canceled, graduations missed and family reunions will not materialize. And well, even that big party called the Olympic Games...that could be kyboshed too. Can you even
imagine?

I'm scared those same epidemic fears will limit trade, harm partnerships in multiple sectors, business and otherwise and ultimately culminate in a global recession.

But mostly, I'm scared about what message we are telling our kids when faced with a threat. Instead of reason, rationality, openmindedness and altruism, we are telling them to panic, be fearful, suspicious, reactionary and self-interested.

Covid-19 is nowhere near over. It will be coming to a city, a hospital, a friend, even a family member near you at some point. Expect it. Stop waiting to be surprised further. The fact is the virus itself will not likely do much harm when it arrives. But our own behaviors and "fight for yourself above all else" attitude could prove disastrous.

I implore you all. Temper fear with reason, panic with patience and uncertainty with education. We have an opportunity to learn a great deal about health hygiene and limiting the spread of innumerable transmissible diseases in our society. Let's meet this challenge together in the best spirit of compassion for others, patience, and above all, an unfailing effort to seek truth, facts and knowledge as opposed to conjecture, speculation and catastrophizing.

Facts not fear. Clean hands. Open hearts.
Our children will thank us for it.

[HASHTAG]#washurhands[/HASHTAG] [HASHTAG]#geturflushot[/HASHTAG] [HASHTAG]#respect[/HASHTAG] [HASHTAG]#patiencenotpanic[/HASHTAG]
 
This is an excellent post from someone who, y’know, might know some things.


I'm a doctor and an Infectious Diseases Specialist. I've been at this for more than 20 years seeing sick patients on a daily basis. I have worked in inner city hospitals and in the poorest slums of Africa. HIV-AIDS, Hepatitis,TB, SARS, Measles, Shingles, Whooping cough, Diphtheria...there is little I haven't been exposed to in my profession. And with notable exception of SARS, very little has left me feeling vulnerable, overwhelmed or downright scared.

I am not scared of Covid-19. I am concerned about the implications of a novel infectious agent that has spread the world over and continues to find new footholds in different soil. I am rightly concerned for the welfare of those who are elderly, in frail health or disenfranchised who stand to suffer mostly, and disproportionately, at the hands of this new scourge. But I am not scared of Covid-19.

What I am scared about is the loss of reason and wave of fear that has induced the masses of society into a spellbinding spiral of panic, stockpiling obscene quantities of anything that could fill a bomb shelter adequately in a post-apocalyptic world. I am scared of the N95 masks that are stolen from hospitals and urgent care clinics where they are actually needed for front line healthcare providers and instead are being donned in airports, malls, and coffee lounges, perpetuating even more fear and suspicion of others. I am scared that our hospitals will be overwhelmed with anyone who thinks they " probably don't have it but may as well get checked out no matter what because you just never know..." and those with heart failure, emphysema, pneumonia and strokes will pay the price for overfilled ER waiting rooms with only so many doctors and nurses to assess.

I am scared that travel restrictions will become so far reaching that weddings will be canceled, graduations missed and family reunions will not materialize. And well, even that big party called the Olympic Games...that could be kyboshed too. Can you even
imagine?

I'm scared those same epidemic fears will limit trade, harm partnerships in multiple sectors, business and otherwise and ultimately culminate in a global recession.

But mostly, I'm scared about what message we are telling our kids when faced with a threat. Instead of reason, rationality, openmindedness and altruism, we are telling them to panic, be fearful, suspicious, reactionary and self-interested.

Covid-19 is nowhere near over. It will be coming to a city, a hospital, a friend, even a family member near you at some point. Expect it. Stop waiting to be surprised further. The fact is the virus itself will not likely do much harm when it arrives. But our own behaviors and "fight for yourself above all else" attitude could prove disastrous.

I implore you all. Temper fear with reason, panic with patience and uncertainty with education. We have an opportunity to learn a great deal about health hygiene and limiting the spread of innumerable transmissible diseases in our society. Let's meet this challenge together in the best spirit of compassion for others, patience, and above all, an unfailing effort to seek truth, facts and knowledge as opposed to conjecture, speculation and catastrophizing.

Facts not fear. Clean hands. Open hearts.
Our children will thank us for it.

[HASHTAG]#washurhands[/HASHTAG] [HASHTAG]#geturflushot[/HASHTAG] [HASHTAG]#respect[/HASHTAG] [HASHTAG]#patiencenotpanic[/HASHTAG]

Indeed, very clear and sensible. I read reports of people in Australia brawling in a supermarket in order to get to toilet rolls and hand wipes. As Beddy has inferred, the Australian media doesn't help a jot to calm that response. However, one must also look at that kind of panic in the face that Australia has just experienced 8 months of their Bush being in flames, so Aussies are possibly feeling a bit vulnerable at present.

Perhaps we are living in an hysterical time period caused by some very tangible pressures [and imagined] placed upon us. To give a UK based example [because it's easier], one could cite Austerity, Brexit, Personal Health, Tory Government, NHS, and any of a host of other pressures outside our personal control. And then comes along Covid-19. Under this cloud you can possibly see how some people are unable to keep their thoughts to the rational. Hence ultimately, one fights over a toilet roll.

In all the simulation drills testers do of airliners catching fire, people are told to calmly don oxygen masks and file out of any available exit - the rational response. That way saves the maximum number of people. But statistically, You, as an individual, will stand a better chance to survive if you climb over the seats, push people out of the way, and jump to the head of the queue, particularly if you started at the back. However, you make everyone else's survival chances greatly diminished - the irrational response. It's similar/same behaviour as people fighting over hand wipes. People have different points at which their rational thinking selves snap, from the immediate to the almost never. What's mine? I suppose it would be determined a lot by how far back in the queue I was and how intense the fire. I think I might even die being rational. So I don't think I'm ever going to fight over hand wipes or toilet rolls. I'd probably leave the fighters to their fisticuffs and find a copy of the Daily Mail to wipe my arse on.
 
Hello from the dark continent .... I’m “self-isolating” for the next 8 weeks by taking myself out into the wilds of Kwazulu-Natal in the beautiful country of South Africa where I shall be accompanied only by game rangers (who are out there all the time) and a few other volunteers (who I shall watch closely for coughs and sneezes). It’s fairly likely that I shall have only sporadic internet access and I’m back mid May when I hope to see our wonderful team fighting for a European place. it seems to be that I’ve made a good choice as there is currently no panic buying here (I travel up country tomorrow) and only 1 confirmed case (a man who arrived back from Italy and is now recovering) so I’m hoping it’ll all be over and done with when I come home!
All the best folks - I’ll post when I can! :emoticon-0103-cool:
Nice trip I'm envious stay safe. Post a few photos please.
 
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