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Off Topic 2019 GE

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Saf, Oct 30, 2019.

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Who will you support in the 2019 GE

  1. Conservatives

  2. Labour

  3. Brexit Party

  4. Lib Dems

  5. Greens

  6. Independent

  7. UKIP

  8. I support my legs because my legs support me lol

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  1. Kittenmittons

    Kittenmittons Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, someone wants to privatise the NHS and is claiming it's fine because the US do it that way, hence the diabetes drugs that cost people thousands a year just to live.
     
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  2. HeatonMackem

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    It doesn't even have to be close to socialism but the closer you get to it, the more the likes of Philip Green will simply move elsewhere. So instead of taxing them at 45%, you get 0%.

    Everyone should probably pay a bit more for the vital stuff, but asking only the richest 1% to pay it all won't work IMO, especially when you throw in the stupid stuff like nationalisation and 4 day weeks :emoticon-0114-dull:
     
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  3. Kittenmittons

    Kittenmittons Well-Known Member

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    Mate, I will bet everything I own that Philip Green doesn't pay 45% tax :D
     
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  4. HeatonMackem

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    If top earners aren't paying 45% tax the solution is tackling tax avoidance not increasing tax rates.
     
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  5. Kittenmittons

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    I'd settle for closing loopholes too, but the Tories arent doing it and theyve been exploited for years. Again, I just don't see how we got into a position where anyone is arguing for billionaires to pay less tax so they don't leave. Our country is being held to ransom by them.
     
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  6. Sunderpitt

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    I cannot understand why the big tax dodging companies, Amazon, Apple, Facebook etc are not charged on a % of their turnover...since they evade any taxes on profits?
     
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  7. Class of 73

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    After the recent news events of yesterday I might bite the bullet and completely change my mind, as I think I have but two real choices.
    Brexit vote: we voted in 2016
    I think it is because they have ‘arranged’ to pay their EU tax through Luxembourg / Ireland at a reduced rate
    https://fairtaxmark.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/How-Companies-Avoid-Tax.pdf
     
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    I can also completely believe that btw. I know from experience that 5 day weeks for my staff are often a case of getting 50% out of them some days. I have considered whether a 4 day week would be a good idea, because we'd get more from them in the other days.
     
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  10. Sandy Camel

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    I think I'm with you on this. The Greens that is, not the Daleks. Not voting for that Davros fella, too spooky for me. Not as spooky as Corbyn like but I wouldn't vote for him either.
     
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  11. Sunderpitt

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    I think to stop Bonko (and I am a leave voter) I will hold my nose and vote labour..

    Mind Durham city is a safe labour seat..so my single vote does not count as much...

    If you live in a marginal... it may need thinking about
     
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  12. Class of 73

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    I am honestly quite worried about Labour ATM. Corbyn has in the past, been associated with a lot of terrorist organizations. Mr McDonnell really pulls the strings and has communist sympathies.
    Add in Momentum, whom I feel are subversive far left anarchists and the question really then is where does that leave HM Forces if Corbyn were to be handed the keys to no10? ( or the Queen for that matter, don’t think she is on his Christmas card list.) what could possibly go wrong.

    Did think that it might just work out...........but then I forgot about Diane Abbot...........

    I think people may start to listen when an ex labour minister says that Corbyn is dangerous though, :emoticon-0101-sadsm
     
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  13. Kittenmittons

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    I think you have to remember that Corbyn is still going to be governed by parliament. He can't go too far with anything because even with a majority government, he would have enough dissent if he tried to gut the armed forces, or enact extreme measures at any point.

    I think he'd have very little success if his true aim was socialism, because there simply aren't many socialists in the Labour party to back him on it.
     
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  14. rooch 3

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    Luckily it’s never going to happen <ok>
     
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  15. SAFCY

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    17000 deaths from a Tory policy

    thumbs up apparently you appear to wish for many more. All of the above is daily mail bingo, full house.

    vote Tory
     
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  16. SAFCY

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    In nine years state one aspect of society that has changed for the better as a result of a Tory policy?
     
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  17. Chunksafc

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    And the worrying thing is its getting worse and when the NHS is gone, people will realise what it was.

    We are incredibly close to being a nation where your wallet decides what health care you get.

    And for all those who mention every other country that doesn't have free health care, that doesn't make it that they are right and we aren't.
     
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  18. rooch 3

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    Was there zero deaths under labour?
     
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  19. SAFCY

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    I see. Ignore the reality to ask a question. Direct Tory policy has caused those deaths. An ideology driven by spite.


    do you really want to compare the death records?

    ILL ASK THIS IN CAPITALS

    AFTER NINE YEARS OF TORY DOCTRINE, LIST ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS IN SOCIETY THAT HAS LEAD TO SOMEONE DECIDING THEY ARE WORTHY OF VOTING FOR.

    I AWAIT THE WHATABOUREY. BUT LETS HAVE THE TORIES LIST THE REASONS WHY WITHOUT RESORTING TO THE WHATABOUTERY BINGO

    I AWAIT WHY BLAH BLAH BLAH VOTE LABOUR.

    CLASSIC TORY WIBBLERS
     
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  20. rooch 3

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    Was that a reply to my question if it was I don’t understand it.
     
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