Match Day Thread QPR vs Sheffield Wednesday

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Sheffield Wednesday vs QPR
Saturday 31st August 2019 - 3pm
Hillsborough

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Travel;
Train;
10:19 AM (Saturday) - 1:53 PM (3 h 34 min)

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Central

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Piccadilly

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LNER

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CrossCountry

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Car;
3 h 16 min (169 miles)
via M1
Bike;
15 h 43 min (182 miles)
via National Cycle Rte 6

Players who have played for both;
Ron Springett;
1955–1958 Queens Park Rangers 88 (0)
1958–1967 Sheffield Wednesday 345 (0)
1967–1969 Queens Park Rangers 45 (0)

Victor Mobley
1961–1969 Sheffield Wednesday 187 (8)
1969–1971 Queens Park Rangers 25 (0)

Peter Springett;
1962–1967 Queens Park Rangers 137 (0)
1967–1975 Sheffield Wednesday 180 (0)

Gary Bannister;
1981–1984 Sheffield Wednesday 118 (55)
1984–1988 Queens Park Rangers 136 (56)

Trevor Francis;
(Player)
1988–1990 Queens Park Rangers 32 (12)
1990–1994 Sheffield Wednesday 76 (5)

(Manager)
1988–1989 Queens Park Rangers
1991–1995 Sheffield Wednesday

Andy Sinton;
1989–1993 Queens Park Rangers 161 (22)
1993–1996 Sheffield Wednesday 62 (3)

Danny Maddix
1987–2001 Queens Park Rangers 295 (13)
2001–2003 Sheffield Wednesday 59 (2)

Junior Agogo
1997–2000 Sheffield Wednesday 2 (0)
2002 Queens Park Rangers 2 (0)

Adam Bolder;
2007–2009 Queens Park Rangers 40 (2)
2008 → Sheffield Wednesday (loan) 13 (2)

Jay Bothroyd;
2011–2013 Queens Park Rangers 25 (3)
2012–2013 →Sheffield Wednesday (loan) 14 (1)

Massimo Luongo;
2015–2019 Queens Park Rangers 145 (10)
2019– Sheffield Wednesday 3 (0)

Previous Meetings vs Sheffield Wednesday;
Games won: 24
Games drawn: 17
Games lost: 30

Ones to remember;
14 Aug 1971 Queens Park Rangers v Sheffield Wednesday W 3-0 League Division Two
06 Nov 1973 Queens Park Rangers v Sheffield Wednesday W 8-2 League Cup
24 Aug 1994 Queens Park Rangers v Sheffield Wednesday W 3-2 Premier League - my first game at Loftus Road. Happy memories.
29 Nov 2003 Queens Park Rangers v Sheffield Wednesday W 3-0 League Division 2
08 May 2004 Sheffield Wednesday v Queens Park Rangers W 1-3 League Division 2:
One from that day;

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Ones to forget:
14 Dec 1968 Sheffield Wednesday v Queens Park Rangers L 4-0 League Division One
02 May 1987 Sheffield Wednesday v Queens Park Rangers L 7-1 League Division One
31 Aug 1991 Sheffield Wednesday v Queens Park Rangers L 4-1 League Division One
02 Dec 1992 Sheffield Wednesday v Queens Park Rangers L 4-0 League Cup
09 Sep 1995 Queens Park Rangers v Sheffield Wednesday L 0-3 Premier League
02 Dec 2000 Sheffield Wednesday v Queens Park Rangers L 5-2 League Division 1

Preview;
Sheffield Wednesday have had a mixed start to the season, winning 3 and losing 2, losing 2-1 to Preston in their latest match. They are in 7th, with 9 points, so 2 points and 5 places above us. A win will see us surely move up the table towards the top six, and, more importantly, will leave us on a positive note before a two week break for international matches.

From the official;

Despite Steve Bruce’s unexpected departure in the summer, Sheffield Wednesday have made a positive start to the league season, with former defender Lee Bullen taking the managerial reins on a caretaker basis once again.

Wednesday head into Saturday’s fixture with the R’s, with the aim of building on their undefeated start made at Hillsborough, being victorious in the two opening home games they have faced so far this season.

QPR manager Mark Warburton says he's looking for a strong reaction from his players in Saturday's game against Sheffield Wednesday following Wednesday night's Carabao Cup defeat to Portsmouth.

In what's been a jam-packed run of fixtures, Warburton says he'll look to again rotate his squad ahead of what's set to be a tough encounter at Hillsborough.

 

Just got the tickets through. Looking forward to this game.

 

A point would be an excellent result.

For me, Warburton makes too many changes too often. I know it's early days but I'd like him to focus in on his chosen squad very soon, aside from injury issues.

For this game, I'm not sure what they benefit would be in going to defensive. If we try and defend all day long and don't dedicate much to attack, we're gonna end up regretting it.

Therefore, we really need to have a go at them in midfield and whoever is up front needs to be at their best. We need to take away their opportunities for attacking us by having a go at them. Easier said than done, though.

Hugill Must start. I think Chair has earned a start, along with Eze (who was obviously rested in the cup). Who should be that fourth attacker? Wells? BOS?

I thought Matt Smith actually showed some quality against Portsmouth but the whole midfield got lost in the second half. Maybe he can start with Scowen whilst we wait for Cameron to return.

Has anyone thought it could be a decent idea to let Hall start as defensive midfielder? That worked well previously.

 

Didn't Danny Maddix play for them after he left us?

 

Hall has to start as CB for me all day long. We have enough midfielders to cover all positions.

 

Hall CB all day long
Let Scowen kick Luongo

 

Peter & Ron Springett played for both sides plus Terry's favourite player Victor Mobley.......

 

I should have, perhaps, got Danny Maddix as he was playing when I first started going to Rangers. As for yours Tranmore...very good knowledge.

 

Peter was in goal for the R's when I was first taken to games by my father, he was off course part of that famous League Cup winning side. There was then the very strange transfer when it was decided that Ron & Peter would swap clubs in the summer of 1967 by which time Ron was in the twilight of his career. Unfortunately for Peter he was in goal for them when the R's put 8 past Wednesday in the League Cup game you mention above.......

 

Seemed to be our bogey side during the 90s. Do recall that 3-2 in 94 with fondness because of that

 

You missed the double whammy Dave - Trevor Francis......played and managed both clubs!

 

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flying up for the game

 

A very nice white kit!

 

Early days, but I also wonder whether Warbs is a bit of a tinkerman.

Time will tell, but I hope he's not.
Rarely a good outcome at this level imo.

 

These days it is a squad game and players need game time so in a way i can understand why changes are made although the 6 made against Wigan was maybe a tad excessive. However the counter argument is what McClaren did last season and play the same 14 players game after game until they had nothing left after New Year..........

Who'd be a manager eh?

 

It's got to be about balance, and I reckon Warburton is still trying to get the balance right between getting the best starting 11, and giving players a break when needed...but surely none of the players already need a break in August! Unlikely that any player will last all 46 games in a season + cup games, so I guess it is good to have back ups who are ready, and who have already got a few games under their belts.

 

Clive's preview......

August has been a frantic month of eight matches for Queens Park Rangers (just the three in September, mental this league, proper batshit) and as we prepare for the last of those at Sheffield Wednesday, just exactly what sort of a team we’ve got for ourselves this season is starting to crystallise a little bit.

The club, by its own admission, felt the squad needed a hand grenade to be thrown in over the summer. In all, 16 players departed either permanently or on loan (Freeman, Furlong, Luongo, Lynch, Smyth, Wheeler, Baptiste, Cousins, Bidwell, Goss, Smith, Ingram, Dieng, Hamalainen, Wszolek and Hemed) and nearly that many have arrived, albeit Nahki Wells, Angel Rangel and Geoff Cameron were all here on different deals last season (Barbet, Masterson, Amos, Ball, Wallace, Pugh, Kane, Smith, Cameron, Wells, Mlakar, Rangel, Hugill, Barnes, Kelly). That’s not only incredibly difficult to do in one summer, but it makes predicting how the team will do, or even what it might look like on the field, incredibly difficult. Even what we’re seeing now, just seven matches in, probably won’t be what we see three months down the line when things have started to bed in.

Read the rest here.....https://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/membe.../what-have-we-got-ourselves-into-here-preview

 

It’s interesting to see how MW uses the squad. I’m not a big fan of constant tinkering, but do believe there is a balance to be had when young players need a rest or an injury needs replacing. But not wholesale changes every/every other match - we need a team that know one another.
The squad put together by MW, et al, showed us we have good cover across positions (if varying skill levels). So wise changes only please, where people can slot in, and know their roles.
Strangely, or perversely, looking forward to today’s game to see what we are made of away to a reasonable team.
Though I think September will tell us much more about our squad, with hopefully positive results coming our way.
C’mon u Rrrrrrrrssssss!!!!

 

If ever there was a game you’d say wasn’t one for Barbet. Need big Tone to lamp Fletcher early doors rather than Barbet offering him a waltz.

 

A very good analysis of our current situation and our strengths and current weaknesses, or more precisely, areas to improve.

With only three competitive matches in September, thus much time for training and coaching, it will be interesting to see how we shape up in October.