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Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by Cb, Nov 24, 2012.

  1. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    That'll be the one then <ok>
     
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  2. goonercymraeg

    goonercymraeg Amnesia Forum Moderator

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    As i've said before he was highly rated by most Arsenal fans until a couple of years ago.
     
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  3. goonercymraeg

    goonercymraeg Amnesia Forum Moderator

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  4. The Bonstar Wandit

    The Bonstar Wandit Well-Known Member

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    No more of this "it's the board" majiggy then. Wenger decides the wages for the contracts. Losing players looks like it's down to him, as we suspected it was the whole way through.

    Seems Wenger gives Gazidis instructions & he tries to make it happen, but the buck stops with Wenger.

    The "socialist" payscale is ridiculous, and will never work in a capitalist society. It just creates frustration & overpaid rubbish players who are impossible to shift - Chamakh. Bendtner, Denilson, Squillaci, Djourou (possibly), and Arshavin.
     
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  5. TheOXOCube:5pur2

    TheOXOCube:5pur2 Pride of North London

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    And you know this based on a BS Mirror Article <ok>
    Don't believe everything your read
     
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  6. Sanj

    Sanj Well-Known Member

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    Not sure how you can put Arshavin in with that lot. He was the 'marquee' signing everyone wanted when we got him, and he proved that he was worth that money at the start by saving our season in 2009.
     
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  7. goonercymraeg

    goonercymraeg Amnesia Forum Moderator

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    This is the homepage of Stuart MacFarlane who is the chief photographer at AFC.You will see by his Tweets that he disputes some story that appears in today's Sunday Mirror.I don't know if it's a transfer rumour or the story about Arsene Wenger.
    https://twitter.com/Stuart_PhotoAFC
     
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  8. gent

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    lol yep, and you are not gullible...
     
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  9. The Bonstar Wandit

    The Bonstar Wandit Well-Known Member

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    "I don't know how it works at other clubs, but the wages at
    Arsenal are decided in consultation between me and the
    board,"

    Not gullible, there's a quote. They may share responsibility, but Wenger is definitely 50% of it.
     
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  10. gent

    gent Well-Known Member

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    And how should the manager not be a source of feedback of what a player is worth? That is not exactly what you wrote above.
     
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  11. gent

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    And by the way Denilson is the only questionable there. Squillaci had 2 very good seasons in Spain before he joined us. Chamakh was on great form before he joined us. Arshavin was one of the highlights of the Euro 2008 (think the demolishing of Netherlands), and was on form for club. Djorou has never been anything but solid, even if not exceptional. Bendtner was the most promising youngster that broke into the first team when Walcott was all the hype, and his record overall isn't even bad although he almost always came in as a sub.


    A contract is made on past evidence, not based on the players they subsequently become.
     
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  12. The Bonstar Wandit

    The Bonstar Wandit Well-Known Member

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    Very true. However, with the "socialist" wage structure, many players brought in have doubled or tripled their wages to bring them in line with other players. If they were given a modest increase, they would be easier to move on if they failed. As it is, they're given massive increases that make them impossible to shift.

    Personally I think Wenger pulls the strings on most things. He seems to be the man in charge of transfers & contracts & wages. It's a huge issue as he effectively seems to run the club. I'd far rather he delegated & had someone he trusted to do the contracts & transfers as Dein did.
     
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    "Djourou has never been anything but solid"

    ... wtf?
     
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  14. afcftw

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    Just read a couple of rumours about Isco to Chelsea... I'll be pissed if they grab yet another of the tricky midfield/wide players that is highly rated and linked to Arsenal!

    I'd love to see Isco re-united with Cazorla at Arsenal :(
     
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  15. goonercymraeg

    goonercymraeg Amnesia Forum Moderator

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    As i've said earlier,Stuart MacFarlane who is the club's photographer has Tweeted there is a story in today's Mirror that is 100% incorrect.
     
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  16. TheOXOCube:5pur2

    TheOXOCube:5pur2 Pride of North London

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    So we are getting that Wigan guy? <wah>
     
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  17. Treat Williams

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    In what way is the payscale socialist?
     
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  18. Mantis

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    Seems to be little in the way of incoming transfer news according to Jamie Sanderson of YoungGunsBlog. Wenger will buy "if we find someone". Not encouraging esp. with a very tough run of January fixtures. I don't know anymore.
     
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  19. ToledoTrumpton

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    My opinion of the wages at Arsenal (and I have never seen any evidence to assume different) is that they handle them like any respectable company. The board establishes how many positions (stars, senior players, squad players etc...) that Wenger can have and the pay ranges that he can give them. It is then his job to allocate players to those positions and decide where in the pay range they fall, within an overal budget.

    I have no evidence or tangible basis for this opinion except that this is the way most companies handle wages. Given how Arsenal conduct the rest of their business I see no reason why they would do anything other than what is considered normal and sensible in the rest of the corporate world.

    I am not sure how this relates to socialism except that it does mean that all players in a category are considered equal.
     
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  20. The Bonstar Wandit

    The Bonstar Wandit Well-Known Member

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    Wenger himself says it's socialist in that they keep they try to have all of the players on very similar wages. If you're in the first team you're paid decent.

    Man City for example reward their strikers & marketable stars with bumper deals. Man Utds first team will range from 20 or 30k for the newer players to 250 for Rooney & RvP etc.

    Arsenal have almost all of their players in the 50 - 90 bracket. Too much for the youngsters so they're not able to move them on, too little for the top end stars so they can't keep them, in my humble opinion.
     
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