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Election 2024

Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by brb, Jan 18, 2024.

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How are Labour doing after their first month in charge?

  1. Excellent, Keir is my hero

    47.1%
  2. Ok ish

    11.8%
  3. It's been like a month of Sucky on weed

    23.5%
  4. BobbyD for Prime Minister

    11.8%
  5. Love not Hate

    5.9%
  6. Duggie wants his Winter Fuel Allowance back

    47.1%
  7. brb is **** at polls

    23.5%
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  1. luvgonzo

    luvgonzo Pisshead

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    3 weeks is a long time
     
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  2. Peej

    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

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    So the good people of Clacton are yet to have an MP clinic from Farage.

    bet they are happy now. He is also off on some US thing early September.
    Demanding answers from Starmer, but can’t be arsed to appear in parliament to ask the questions…..

    reform. ‘Taking back are country’
     
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  3. FosseFilberto

    FosseFilberto Pizzeria Superiore and some ... Forum Moderator

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    64 ... and will continue to work whilst I enjoy it ... no real upper age limit for what I do - indeed it's the experience that counts - especially with far east headquartered companies - and always seem to be opportunities ... currently at another FTSE250 - started on a 6 monther but now been extended... <cheers>
     
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  4. Solid Air 2

    Solid Air 2 Well-Known Member

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  5. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    I haven’t really looked into the winter payments thing, but I presume that if you’re on benefits or pension credit etc then you’d still get it ?

    My old dear is comfortably off, she doesn’t need winter fuel allowance. She bought a house (with my old man when he was alive) with solar panels and at the time when the FIT was still active. So not only does she get regular payments from supplying the grid with power, she also gets WFA

    When I ask her what she’s gonna do with the money she gets from the Govt and from FIT, she’s like ‘oh I don’t know, just stick it in the bank I suppose’

    There’s vast swathes of comfortably off pensioners in this country that get a ****ing good deal from the Govt. many of them have got company pensions on top of a state pension, triple lock, free prescriptions, eye tests, optical vouchers etc. They bought their houses on a single wage at a time when prices were rock bottom.

    As long as those who really need it are protected, I see no problem from removing some free cash for the elderly
     
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  6. Solid Air 2

    Solid Air 2 Well-Known Member

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    yeah if you get certain benefits ( i know the main one is Pensions credit ) you still get it .People need to get rid of the idea Pensioners as a group are poor as actually they just aren't anymore and in comparison to workers have been doing very well in the last 15 years
     
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  7. brb

    brb CR250

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    While I don't disagree with any of that, it's the same old government policies of whoever is in power. And you accept it or dislike it, depending if it's a power you support. I'm pretty certain if the Tories had done this, you of all people would have been ranting about it.

    The Tories chose to pick on those on benefits, Labour choose to pick on pensioners, and regardless of the rights and wrongs, I'm still waiting to see policies that are going to affect the rich - governments always go for those further down the ladder first, how about they start at the top for a change.

    Much like his speech on tv yesterday, again I fully support him, but I still think he missed the opportunity to cover some vital points that are concerning voters, that of knife crime, ok he's going to allow stop and search, great it's a start but it;s no where near enough and hiding behind right wing thugs rhetoric will not make the problem go away.

    I think Starmer is doing the right things, but sometimes I feel he's not quite grasped it, but it's early days and I will give him a chance, it's better than what we had a bunch of thieves, but please stop robbing pensioners and focus your target elsewhere, afterall what about self employed people who fiddle their taxes or maybe even pay none...
     
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  8. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    Both benefits, but I agree I'd like to see Labour closing the tax loopholes for the rich.
     
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  9. brb

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    @duggie2000 hope you are keeping a list of all this stuff bro, they've taken your cold weather payment, they are coming for your free prescriptions, I've heard today your council tax is next on the list, they are going to revalue properties and chances are you will end up paying a lot lot more. I won't mention your car, I'll let you digest the pain of all this first... <laugh>

    I think Starmer should tax bicycles, higher the value the more you pay, afterall they are taking up road and rock space. :bandit:
     
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  10. brb

    brb CR250

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    Have they targeted the rich on anything yet?
     
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  11. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    There's a few things in their manifesto. The £5.2bn from ending non dom status and £1.5bn from ending tax breaks for private school. I think there was another £500m odd from ending another interest loophole that private equity chiefs use.

    Doubt any of this has had an effect yet. But it's something that would raise significant capital for the exchequer.

    Gotta find some money for that £20bn hole the Tories left behind :bandit:
     
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  12. brb

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    @Big Ern mentioned the other day all these properties sitting empty, forget the number it was huge, what's Starmer doing about that?
     
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  13. brb

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    Saka earns £15M a year at Rwanda sponsoring Arsenal....can't we tax him more, most people won't see that sort of money in a lifetime, let alone a year. All because he can kick a ball and dive.
     
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  14. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    Yeah empty properties are a big problem. Probs shouldn’t have allowed the Ruskies to launder so much money through London when Osborne and his coked up mates were in charge.

    Not sure what you do about that now ? Compulsory purchase ? It would cost a ****in bomb to buy them all back.
     
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  15. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    Feeling like I might have to get my bingo scorecard out in a bit <laugh>
     
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  16. brb

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    Thing is regardless of problems the Tories caused, Starmer can't just go after the easy targets, the money is in the big targets, especially with property, otherwise it's talk big but do fook all about it when you are in power. Solutions I want, not the problems.
     
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  17. brb

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    If they are Ruskie properties, just take them, especially afterall this money we spent on the war in Ukraine, call it a payment in lieu. Then convert them or sell them to buy suitable properties for those in need.
     
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  18. Saf

    Saf Not606 Godfather+NOT606 Poster of the year 2023

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    <laugh>

    The Tories brought in austerity after the global financial crisis and they were nasty murderers who pretty much forced people into suicide.

    Labour have come into a market that has not only recently stabilised and is showing positive signs and they’ve attacked pensioners, benefits and the working class man and woman. The response? It needs done and pensioners get enough anyway.

    If they only want one term in government they’re going the right way about it.
     
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  19. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    you didn’t want solutions when I was talking about the long term fix for knifey knifey lol, but yeah I agree that the big targets are the ones to generate more income.

    I don’t know what you do about the amassed wealth in property that foreign investors are sitting on. They will say (and quite rightly) that they bought it all legally at the time. The fact that we allowed so much Russian money to get laundered through the city is a symptom of how the rich were afforded a set of rules that the rest of us don’t enjoy.

    Labour have said they will end non dom, private school tax breaks and a couple of other tax benefits. There’s around £7bn per year right there, so that can make a fairly immediate difference.
     
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  20. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    Probs just old Tory voters who’ll be dead by the next election anyway. :bandit:
     
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