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Ched Evans

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by PleaseNotPoll, Apr 20, 2012.

  1. stopmeandslapme

    stopmeandslapme Well-Known Member

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    請成為我的朋友埃迪,其他人都知道我是一個陰戶
     
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  2. Toby

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    Did I say it wasn't her problem? If she was sober enough to get into the car with the first guy, then she was ok. It's the rest of it that's ****ed <doh>

    The rohypnol example was to show you that you're 'if she wasn't saying no' argument is bullcrap <ok>
     
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  3. Jip Jaap Stam

    Jip Jaap Stam General Chat Moderator
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    Where does it say that?
     
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  5. Toby

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    I assumed it from the fact she had absolutely no recollection of any events there, there's being drunk and passed out, and she sounded like the latter. There's nothing wrong with sleeping with a drunk girl, but bringing someone you've never met back to a hotel because she's pissed is ****ed, and letting your mate in on the action is even worse.
     
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  7. stopmeandslapme

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    I thought the point of the court of law was to prove beyond reasonable doubt that a crime has taken place. So how drunk do you have to be that there is reason to believe that you wouldn't have consented to sex had you drank a unit of alcohol less? More importantly, how does one determine this state of drunkeness?
     
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  8. Trypsin-1

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    The dodgy bit is that she says she drank less than she normally drinks then couldn't remember after that, sounds like date rape <ok>
     
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  9. Jip Jaap Stam

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    Do you not think if she'd been passed out then she'd have said she was? It would strengthen the prosecution's case. I've forgotten things I've done, but when I've asked people about the lost time, I've not been unconscious. Just bladdered.

    Something's not right about this in my opinion.
     
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    Exactly. "She says". Not exactly hard evidence is it?
     
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  11. SaintsForTheWin

    SaintsForTheWin Any holes a goal

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    You know what women are like though... "I was wasted but I'm sure I didn't drink that muchhhh" - add thick welsh accent.
     
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  12. Trypsin-1

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    OK, let's assume she lied about everything even though all she said was 'I can't remember'? It's not like that's exactly a venomous lie. She said she had a few shots, less than she normally drinks then blacked out.

    There's no reason not to believe her, especially when she hasn't accused anyone
     
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    [video=youtube;DlKIsg_XdkI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlKIsg_XdkI&amp;feature=related[/video]
     
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    She described the exact amount
     
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  15. J๏E..

    J๏E.. The King of Hearts

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    Thing is mate, people say anything on the stand <ok>
     
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  16. SaintsForTheWin

    SaintsForTheWin Any holes a goal

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    I've known many girls who tell me they're bladdered and say they didn't drink much. They'll tell me what they had and they missed loads out. I'm sorry, but taking evidence from a drunk is no adequate. If she was date raped she would not be able to walk full stop.
     
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  17. J๏E..

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    Spot on..
     
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  18. SaintsForTheWin

    SaintsForTheWin Any holes a goal

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    Personally I can drink quite a lot but if I have a shot or two my memory disappears.
     
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  19. Trypsin-1

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    ****ing light-weight
     
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    If she has no recollection of what happened how do you want her to know she passed out :huh:
     
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