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fatletiss said:
I have seen first series of Bosch - it was excellent and mainly because Connelly was involved ion the directing. The characters were just as I had them in my head - brilliant casting.


*did you mean you have Connelly's books or all of Harris'?
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Is the series about Bosch about washing machines and tumble-driers? <gets coat> ........
 
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Whiteley Saint said:
I've got a Bosch washing machine and dishwasher, not very exciting to watch though.......if there is a market for it maybe I could make a few quid.
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I just installed a washing machine and tumble-drier - hence the remark. My tumble-drier is really interesting - has a blue "disco" light which stays on whilst it's drying. Very exciting ............... I need to get out more .......
 
fatletiss said:
I have seen first series of Bosch - it was excellent and mainly because Connelly was involved ion the directing. The characters were just as I had them in my head - brilliant casting.


*did you mean you have Connelly's books or all of Harris'?
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Ummm... both :emoticon-0111-blush My box room is full of books, which is why I love book stalls on markets and charity shops... or should that be the other way round? Yup! I love book stalls on markets and charity shops so my box room is full of books :D
 
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I would like a conveyor belt fitted in my lounge so unread books could be brought right to my sofa. I am getting better at recycling books...either to friends or back to the charity shops...as I will never read the books I haven't read, never mind read again those I already have.
 
fran-MLs little camera said:
I would like a conveyor belt fitted in my lounge so unread books could be brought right to my sofa. I am getting better at recycling books...either to friends or back to the charity shops...as I will never read the books I haven't read, never mind read again those I already have.
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Are you the sort of person that can read a book twice? many years ago I would start a book, read about 3 paragraphs and realize I'd read it before and throw it away in disgust. A few years later I read Philip Pulman's Trilogy. A few years after that I thought I didn't understand those books and for the first time read books twice. Pretty sure I didn't understand them the second time! (and the film was crap)
 
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fran-MLs little camera said:
Not sure that would work though. You are one sort of person or you are not....show those books to most people and they will be horrified....show them to another subset (under certain circumstances) and they will see it as a way of life. Look at the Koran....most Muslims lead decent lives, but a subset (under outside influences) read it a different way. Education has a part, but genes also have a part (they now know that a subset of people have a tendency to violence/psychopathy if they have childhood problems) and upbringing and example have a major part.

I am not suggesting you should forget the Holocaust or deny its existence (like some apparently do), but this man (someone who could attack a lone person who is virtually a stranger to him) with weapons and then act like nothing has happened was attracted to those books rather than turned by them. They merely encouraged him in his already damaged behaviour. The man who killed those children on an island also had a taste for the same reading material.
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Yes, I see what you are getting at. This becomes a question of what is morally acceptable and what society will tolerate. Up until recently [political correctness aside and its backlash] the trend was for society to be increasingly tolerant of views. But people can become confused over what are views, what are ways of life, and how their views and actions affect others. Stepping outside of my own moral code, I can understand how these things can become confused with certain people. That doesn't mean I quite ready to tolerate extremes, like Jo Cox's murderer, but it moderates my response.
 
Rorschach's Journal said:
Interesting idea that extremism isn't a factor among the educated! it's rarely the poorly educated man on the street that starts revolutions, or writes the extremist literature, or ends up in government. Not only that, extremism is subjective depending on who sets the benchmark for normal - formal education generally comes from the same sources that set the ethical and moral guidelines in society so in the mainstream, education can shape the thinking of a population however regardless of the number of times you are told Nazis are evil, drugs are bad and killing people is wrong, there will always be those that disagree or just don't care.
What the Jo Cox case tells me is that in any population, regardless of national ideology, or level of education, there will always be assholes who transgress the accepted, and let's face it, some people will always be attracted by the dark side of the force.
It's naive and simplistic in my opinion to think that education is the answer to all abberation in society, as rebellion is always there in some personalities within that society - education just equips those people with the targets for aggression and the tools to carry out any action they seek to take.
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You had me going there RJ, and then you mentioned the dark side of the force. Never been a fan, as they say, of the dark or light side of any particular force. ;)

Also, in the absence of education, does one advocate ignorance.?
 
TheSecondStain said:
You had me going there RJ, and then you mentioned the dark side of the force. Never been a fan, as they say, of the dark or light side of any particular force. ;)

Also, in the absence of education, does one advocate ignorance.?
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It isn't education that is needed....it is good upbringing (which is education of a sort, of course). You shouldn't need to warn a good kid about Fascism...the average five year old would be appalled....because they understand decency and fairness.
 
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