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Sir Les

Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Nov 1, 2016.

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Should SLF Stay or Go?

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  1. YorkshireHoopster

    YorkshireHoopster Well-Known Member

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    I don't think I have if you look at the reference to Tango and Cash. However my point simply is that while he is comfortably the best manager we have had in the last 10-15 years he did make mistakes which have contributed to our current malaise and should not be overlooked. Dross is dross whichever way you look at it. I also doubt whether he really did not have an opportunity to look at players who were available at the time. Many would have had doubts about SWP, Ferdinand, Barton and Traore at the time given their far from glittering careers to date. Therefore if that really was all that was left on the shelves at the time we might have been better served saving the cash until January and giving the promotion team a chance to stake their claims to a place in the starting lineup.
     
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  2. YappyR

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    How did Ramsey end up being manager? That was quite the short term mix it up and hope type appointment, if you ask me.
    And then how about bringing in Uncle Neil for his 2nd stint for what - a month? Telling me that wasn't? Yes that certainly was a quick short term and see type of thing. And I didn't understand why he couldn't have carried on. And then the period of Dowie, Ainsworth, Sousa, Magilton, Hart, Harford, until Uncle Neil came along. Then after that, you realize, Sparky was only with us for 10 months? Kneecap was here with us longer than any of these!

    So what sort of stability do you want. Stability that takes us down, and then have us biting our nails about perhaps going down again? Oh yes, we can say then we at least kept the same management and coaches. Load of crap that is.

    JFH has been with us long enough to prove that he's not good enough. And WE're supposed to give him a chance? Us? Our club as his proving ground? No way. IF that is what TF and SLF have decided, then so be it, but then we have to see results in the next couple months until the window. If not, he has to go. At least I'm giving him that much, even though I want him gone now.
    I would prefer to shuffle it and take a chance on somebody else and a whole new system of playing than what we're seeing now.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Queens_Park_Rangers_F.C._managers
     
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  3. YorkshireHoopster

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    Isn't that exactly KPD's point? You've proved it. What you advocated initially ("it's OK to continuously mix it up and change up the management and directorship until something works in the short term to get us back to the Prem") does not work. I grant you that it does look increasingly that they got it wrong (again) with JFH. But that does not mean that it is better to have a constant procession of new managers and teams rather than a period of stable management.

    When dear old Queenslander was still posting on this Board I remember that he kept banging on about giving a manager 12 games before delivering a judgment about him. Perhaps you agree with that? If so that means only 4 a year.

    There is another way. We have a Director of Football. Does that not give him the right to tell his manager that "last night's performance was shocking" and "what were you trying to achieve benching our best players and playing X and/or Y instead?" The reality is we do not know what he says to the manager apart from the carefully scripted soundbites for press release. I would be surprised if nothing at all was said.
     
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  4. QPR Oslo

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    Maybe. But even with hindsight its not clear. There were very few back then who did not think the Squad needed strenghening for the PL. I remember us playing at Everton I think it was, 2nd game of that first season before the deadline with a weaked Championship team. We won it with a good chunk of luck. Then he brought in those players and we were OK the first months - 9th in the PL in November and still above the relegation zone after 6 weeks of poor results. Maybe we paid too much for them, but maybe we had to back then and for varying lengths of time they all did well. I remember all 4 doing OK or better in that period at least.
     
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