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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. GoldhawkRoad

    GoldhawkRoad Well-Known Member

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    Fifa ban England and Scotland from having poppies on their shirts when they play each other

    Louis Smith's been banned by British Gymnastics for mocking a religion

    Two Polish lads have been jailed for 8 MONTHS for throwing bacon into a Mosque

    What the fc uk's going on?
     
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  2. sb_73

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    We are certainly having some pretty crap advertisements for Western style democracy at the moment, wherever you look.
     
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  3. GoldhawkRoad

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    Lawyer prosecuting - "All of a sudden a man threw some meat in the caretaker's direction that turned out to be some bacon.

    The meat landed on the floor about two metres away from him and he said he could see immediately that it was a rasher.

    He later found out a third piece of bacon had been put in the shoe of a worshipper who was present during the incident.'

    The caretaker at the mosque described the attack as a 'hate crime targeting the Muslim community.'

    He added: 'I genuinely believed my life was in danger.'


    FFS...
     
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  4. kiwiqpr

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    apparently his life would only have been in danger if he had cooked and eaten the bacon
    6% higher risk of bowel cancer from eating processed meats
     
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  5. kiwiqpr

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    missed the whole poppy thing
    whats the story
     
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  6. sb_73

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    England v Scotland on the 11th November, both teams want to wear the poppy on their shirts FIFA say no, because its 'political', enabling May to say 'they should jolly well get their own house in order'. Negotiations between the respective FAs and FIFA ongoing, pretty certain they will wear poppies whatever FIFA say.
     
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  7. kiwiqpr

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    didnt realise that when i bought a poppy i was making a political statement
    so which side of the fence am i on if i wear one
     
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  8. Star of David Bardsley

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    May has predictably lost a court case she had no chance of winning today and A50 will go to parliament, quite rightly.
     
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  9. Star of David Bardsley

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    It's a PR disaster if they don't.

    I'm all for remembrance of the world wars and all the other wars and it should always be part of the curriculum but I don't like the annual competition to see who can wear a poppy first and being made to feel like some sort of lunatic if I'm not wearing one.
     
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  10. sb_73

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    Appeal to Supreme Court first. And if they she loses that the European Court of Justice. Perhaps.

    Brace yourself for the 'will of the people' mob, who don't get parliamentary democracy.
     
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  11. Star of David Bardsley

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    Good luck to them trying to get it through the European courts.

    I've already seen one comment about the "will of the people" which I'm pretty sure had nothing to do with declaring immigrants the root of all evil.
     
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  12. sb_73

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    Just got mine in the butchers this morning. It's hardly a tradition in football poppies on shirts only appeared about 9 years ago. Man U and Liverpool didn't want to do it, but the FA forced them.
    The European courts bit was a joke. The reaction to this is going to be fun, but I reckon May won't mind, gives her more time to dither around.
     
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    They wanted to use the royal prerogative - i.e. the crown as executive power - to by pass parliament. Another example of why an elected, executive head of state is a good idea.
     
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    Just heard Farage spluttering about 'handing back the decision to the very people who took us in'.

    Anyone see this? Very funny.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b081v8yc
     
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    The Supreme Court is likely to overturn the decision.
    The government spelled out on the referendum paper that the result would be implemented by the government.
    The high court has made an overtly political decision.

    This should be a wonderful opportunity for the bemoaners to drone on about the result yet again.
     
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    Where does it say on the ballot paper that the Government would implement the majority decision? Looking at it now it looks like an opinion survey.
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    Don't worry Col, we are still leaving, this is about the terms of leaving which obviously was not addressed in the referendum question. And as a supporter of British sovereignty I would expect you to support the historic, traditional right of Parliament to have a voice in treaty negotiations. Otherwise the referendum was a vote to install a bland dictatorship.
     
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    An opinion survey is exactly what it was. I'd wager that opinions are different now.
     
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  18. sb_73

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    Apparently not, I recall this being discussed on the radio a couple of days ago, and it seems the Brexit majority has grown (if opinion polls are to be trusted)a percent or two since June. MPs will not overturn the Brexit decision, but they may disappoint the 'patriots' on immigration, by insisting, in the national interest, that we negotiate to stay in the Single Market.
     
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    Did any of the MPs express their opposition to the referendum before hand?
     
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    Can't find any post-referendum Brexit opinion polls, but I did see that a recent YouGov poll suggested that a hypothetical Stop Brexit party would beat Labour into third place in a general election with 25.9% of the vote, compared to 18.7% Labour and 34.1% for the Tories. Puzzlingly though (or perhaps revealingly), this poll suggests that 3.9% of Leave voters would vote for a Stop Brexit party.
     
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