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The EU debate - Part III

Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by Jürgenmeiʃter, Sep 6, 2016.

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  1. Tobes

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    They were 42% up month on month and year on year on the 2015 figures post Brexit

    All those figures show is the gradual rise of the far right racists in this country, who have felt increasingly empowered due to ****s like your mate Farage and the far right lead media, spouting their bile towards both Eastern Europeans and Muslims.

    The fact that you don't accept the facts about the increase in race hate incidents posts Brexit and would rather make some ****ish non point instead, speaks volumes about your agenda, you hideous snide twat
     
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  2. DMD

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    I claimed they were rising before Brexit, you said that was bollox.

    The graph says you can't accept facts.
     
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    You also posted an article with figures showing a 48% increase in reported racial and xenophobic attacks post Brexit.
     
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  4. DMD

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    Yep. So what?

    My claim was it was rising before brexit. It was.
     
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    And it it's risen far more sharply since!
     
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    I didn't deny they were rising before Brexit Worzel, I said they'd massively increased since the vote - which they have.

    You however, chose to try and dismiss that FACT by posting a piece about the reporting methods and saying they were rising anyway, trying to insinuate it was merely part of the upward curve

    Not only have the reported incidents risen, there's been a number of posts on here showing anecdotal evidence of race hate incidents post Brexit, many of which weren't reported - including the one I mentioned

    The posts you've made on this issue have plainly showed you are the one who struggles with facts that don't fit with your twisted snide agenda. Your mask is slipping by the day.
     
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    Reported crime has. The reporting procedure has changed, which means anonymous, unsubstantiated claims are included.

    You can guess, but what you can 't claim (yet) as fact is that there's been an actual increase, or that it's due to brexit.
     
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    I haven't dismissed that claim Worzel, that's you and your strawmen again. I've commented on the lack of proof in the conclusions drawn.

    See my reply to stuttering.
     
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    So it's Halloween tomorrow. I'm no fan of it but the kids love getting dressed up in their costumes and going trick or treating. We live in an area where there are lots of families with young kids so there's quite a lot of trick or treating traffic.

    @King Kustard just remember that those people who make it beyond the staffies to your front door aren't midget immigrants begging for food

    @petersaxton do the right thing and make it a special occasion by sharing your grand harvest of food

    @Hull City AFC (DMD) and @God's Cock enjoy your quiet night in as no doubt the local kids know not to go anywhere near your front door

    @The Zlatan enjoy your trick or treating fella
     
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    It's merely a coincidence mate.

    The fact that the mainstream Tory media has been spouting intolerance for the last couple of years and the xenophobes and racists saw Brexit as some form of validation of their 'our country' bullshit, is irrelevant to a snide bigots like Kustard and Dull.
     
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    Bullshit, yet again!..

    All actual, reported and anecdotal evidence shows a marked increase in this type of crime post the Brexit vote.

    It is, as always, your desire to decry and deny anything and everything that doesn't suit your neo fascist agenda, that once again leads you to try and deny the blindingly obvious!..
     
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    Aye, and 4 million people signed the brexit petition. :emoticon-0105-wink:

    When firm evidence is available, and it may well come, you can make your claim, but as it is, it's just your usual 'blame everything on brexit' whine.

    You don't even suggest a solution.
     
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    What lack of proof is this? The facts you mean? The stats that you quoted as proof of the upward curve in the last few years are fine, but the stats that show a massive rise post Brexit aren't?

    You absolute ****
     
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    Hoisted by his own bigoted petard, yet again.,...
     
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    You'd think he'd tire of being dry arse ****ed on this thread, but seemingly not.
     
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    I'm starting to believe he's either to thick or too boneheaded and stubborn to realise, or recognise when he's been caught out - yet again!...
     
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    You're hanging your hat on figures that allow anonymous, uncorroborated reports to count, and some of the others looked into turned out non-racial, never mind anything to do with brexit. If/when the conviction figures come out, then you can talk, but even then, brexit hasn't caused the mind set, the graph I posted shows it pre-existed.

    Whining that it's brexit's fault is a sure fired way to miss finding a solution.

    I notice you too don't suggest a solution.
     
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    I notice you're still decrying and denying the obvious.

    Here's just one tiny example of what the Brexit vote brought out!..

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/brexit-aftermath-saw-massive-rise-8394195
     
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    From two dumb ****ers that desperately tried to rearrange the discussion when they realised they'd ****ed up yet again, and reports had been increasing since before brexit, which is what I claimed, that's as funny as ****. :emoticon-0102-bigsm:emoticon-0102-bigsm:emoticon-0102-bigsm

    Have some dignity ladies.
     
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