Not for me. If the [Great?] British public have made a horse's arse of a decision [and they did in my opinion] we need every opportunity to give them a chance to think again. Especially when the result was so close. It wouldn't have been quite so bad if the vote was overwhelming, or indeed a half decent majority, but the country is split right down the middle, and I for one will not meekly accept Brexit.
As the referendum was about what amounts to constitutional change, it should have required a 2/3 majority to effect a result in favour of leaving.
Personally, I think we should either have a two legged vote (home and away - we vote, Europe votes), or do best out of three...
It's just common sense and simple economics. Businesses when faced with uncertainty will try hedge their risks. When given leverage, they will use it. So they will try and wring concessions out of the government right now. And they will get them. It's smart to give it to them, at least in the short term. I have both moral and logical problems with some of the immigration policies being thrown out there. But I am pretty much neutral on Brexit itself. There are pluses and minuses, potential risk and rewards. Not my country, so you guys decide if it is worth it. But it was never going to be smooth sailing. Hopefully those who voted to leave factored everything in and if so, the idea of the government having to make some concessions to large employers and big economic players should not be either surprising or alarming.
UE? People were right! It's already become a United Europe.... phew, that was close. We got our just in time
Most people - myself included - are pretty ignorant, which is democracy's great flaw. It's still a better system than all the others though. If we get the wrong government, they'll only be around for a few years. Brexit, on the other hand, is pretty much irreversible. That's why Parliament, and not just a handful of ministers, should be fully involved in the whole process. Especially as the vote was so close.
@LordStras Govt just failed to stop Lords adding Leveson protection for victims of press abuse. Now it's up to the Commons tomorrow @LordStras My faint hope Govt would see sense of not weakening encryption in #IPBill was misplaced. Our security & crypto tech being stuffed on Monday
What a suprise, a Tory Government ruling out an inquiry into the events at Orgreave in 1984. The Police during the Miner's dispute went way beyond normal crowd control and acted more like an army, charging into miners on horseback and batoning them indescriminately, no wonder they were dubbed "Maggie's Militia". There has been a Hillsborough style cover up since, with many officers present at both events. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37826507
Absolutely. I have friends who can testify to heavy handed policing of industrial disputes during the eighties, specifically the printers strike at Wapping, when police - on this occasion the Met - indiscriminately attacked strikers then arrested and charged them with breach of the peace. Margaret Thatcher basically declared war on the Trade Union movement in the eighties, and the police were encouraged to view themselves as an army. I also have friends who were coppers back then , and they earned fortunes from overtime policing those disputes - but when the the battle was won and the dust had settled, the police were, rather ironically, subject to heavy cut backs in their own pay and conditions.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37822710 The BBC's take on a few Brexit questions. No surprises I would say.
My ex brother in law was a copper during the strikes . He boasted about how when sitting in the police vans , they would show their pay slips to the miners , on occasion the miners would kick off and the police would have to intervene.......he was a thug in uniform then , last I heard he had not changed as a person .
I think at the next vote we should adopt the opposite position to the one the public vote for, unless it's by a 2/3 majority when we accept it, or if it's a draw when the EU will have the casting vote. Takes some time to get the "right" result I guess.
http://news.sky.com/story/brexit-article-50-high-court-ruling-due-on-thursday-10641796 Decision on whether the Government can trigger article 50 without a vote in Parliament due tomorrow. Whatever the decision there is likely to be an appeal.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37857785 Government loses Article 50 court fight. They are appealing the decision.
