Rival watch
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Seats being ripped out and missiles being thrown at the Inland Revenue arena. Not surprising. When Chelsea and West Ham fans meet, Darwin turns in his grave.
Watching United and City gives me a feeling they both want to win the tournament (as do their fans!) Looks like they can turn out their best teams while we cannot.
Remember when we were regarded as one of the cup kings?....and now.....!......wouldn't our fans like to win the FL Cup?Of course they would.
We seem to be just concentrating on "winning" the PL and making money getting in the CL and that's about it......and usually failing at that.
When the brickwall teams like Leicester start winning the Leagues....it makes you wonder!
Remember when we were regarded as one of the cup kings?....and now.....!......wouldn't our fans like to win the FL Cup?Of course they would.
We seem to be just concentrating on "winning" the PL and making money getting in the CL and that's about it......and usually failing at that.
When the brickwall teams like Leicester start winning the Leagues....it makes you wonder!
Do you think if Darwin turned up today at the White Elephant he would think he's found the "missing link"?
I wonder if West Ham or the Council Tax payers of London pay to replace the seats that Chelsea and West Ham 'fans' are throwing at each other?
We do?
I bloody knew it. Of course we do.
We do?
I bloody knew it. Of course we do.
Personally I wouldn't like to win whatever the League Cup is called this season, because more often than not it means players put their feet up for the rest of the season.
It happened to us after the last couple of times we won it, it happened to Swansea, it happened to Birmingham - in short, it's the Europa League of domestic cup competitions, because unless you have a squad that can handle being in multiple competitions winning the trophy is actually bad for your team's form.
6 games without a win in all competitions for Pep. And they've failed to score in 3 of them.
I wouldn't worry about it. Given Poch's attitude to cup competitions, I doubt we'll ever win one while he remains
In charge.
In 2015 Chelsea won it and went on to win the title.
In 2014 City won it and went on to win the title.
Between 2011 and 2013 Swansea, Birmingham and pool won and dropped off.
2010 United won it and came runners up in the league.
In 2009 United won it and went on to win the title and got to CL final
in 2008 we won it and dropped off.
In 2007 Chelsea won it and came runners up in the league
In 2006 United won it and came runners up in the League.
In 2005 Chelsea won it and went on to win the League.
Only 4 teams have seen their season die after winning it out of the last 11 winners.
4 of the other winners have ended up winning the title and 3 have come runners up. So I don't really agree with your logic.
Oh god that's so tinpot.The best bit is, there's a high chance it won't even be allowed in the ground, most clubs these days won't accept any flags/ banners with insulting language on it, especially one that'll cause a reaction amongst home fans.
I wonder if the guy who got it printed would have the bollocks to walk down Park Lane with it though...
In the old days I would have much rather won a cup than been 2nd in the League. But that's unrealistic now. Unless you are in the top 4 you lose out on money and the best players and that makes future success much less likely.
And playing in the Champs League is exciting. Who was not proud to see Tottenham v Real Madrid, or Tottenham v Inter Milan come out of the hat. Those are special nights for me as a supporter.
I do get these points of view (particularly about players wanting CL football) but to give up on the very real possibility of winning a cup is so disappointing.
A team with Son, Lamela, Wanyama and Eriksen starting would have probably got us through that tie and in the quarter final we would be facing Leeds at home.
Watching your team lifting a trophy is a great feeling and I think that it was possible to put out a stronger team ... the same is true of last season when we played Arsenal.
On another note the loss to pool has kindly of added pressure for the Leicester match as we haven't won in 4 matches now.
I kind of know I am in a minority on this issue and will forget about it soon enough but wish we wouldn't give up on competitions.
The best bit is, there's a high chance it won't even be allowed in the ground, most clubs these days won't accept any flags/ banners with insulting language on it, especially one that'll cause a reaction amongst home fans.
I wonder if the guy who got it printed would have the bollocks to walk down Park Lane with it though...
There'll be 3500 people shouting it at the top of their lungs mate. I think he'll be fine.
Not sure you lot know how to sing do you? Only thing I hear from Leicester fans are those embarrassingly bad cardboard clappers.
Agree. Also the schedule makes a huge difference. There is a reason why teams playing European competitions don't play the early round of this cup.
Maybe if we had a home tie in the Europa, I would have put out a stronger team ( as MU ).
Also, when do we play the younger members of the suad and players like Big Kev?
I don't like us putting out 'weakened' teams. Declaring against Leverkeusen was dreadful and losing at home to Palace in the cup was not much better. However, if we can continue to make the CL places, then our chances of keeping our best players rise. In 2008 we won the League Cup but Keane and Berbatov both jumped ship. If we keep our best players, the chances of future successes rise.
The agenda is set by the players now. If they want something and aren't getting it then you have departures. Also, the CL income is going to pay off the stadium a lot faster than a win in the League Cup, so Daniel Levy's not going to complain. The game's not about glory any more.
I don't like us putting out 'weakened' teams. Declaring against Leverkeusen was dreadful and losing at home to Palace in the cup was not much better. However, if we can continue to make the CL places, then our chances of keeping our best players rise. In 2008 we won the League Cup but Keane and Berbatov both jumped ship. If we keep our best players, the chances of future successes rise.
The agenda is set by the players now. If they want something and aren't getting it then you have departures. Also, the CL income is going to pay off the stadium a lot faster than a win in the League Cup, so Daniel Levy's not going to complain. The game's not about glory any more.
As the phrase goes : (sic) Don't hate the player hate the game.
I would love the Spurs of the 80s back, but the PL and UEFA have conspired
to make the vicious circle that Powerspurs has mentioned.
Which means we are unlikely to see similar again until our squad gets much stronger.
