The EU debate - Part III

Putting the video up is the same as quoting ... you used her words to explain her view of something.
At no point did I say or suggest that you agreed with her. I took it as a certainty that you do not support or agree with fascism. That's why I said it belittled your point to quote her (use her words).

I do not get your point about about me "targeting the messenger not the message" being "intriguing"...she is a Fascist so it is the responsibility of all those who oppose Fascism to oppose her.
There is nothing intriguing or strange about this. If I have misunderstood this point then apologies

 

Apology accepted.

I just feel dismissing the comments in one reply about Europe is short sighted, particularly if your justification is based on political ideology due to the death toll due to one regime.

I really don't want to get into a worst of the worst type debate, but Communism and the left blows Fascist death tolls to bits. Mao 60,000,000. Stalin 23,000,000. Pol pot etc etc. The point is nutters come in all sizes and colours.

It's more about the words on the EU than who said them.

 

She a ****er.
I have no idea how many people died as a result of Mao. Or how they were worked out.
I have no idea what this post actually has to do with what I have said.
I do however know that over 60m people died in WW2
http://secondworldwar.co.uk/index.php/fatalities
And it is even suggested that a further possible 50m civilians died in China in this war
http://www.nationalww2museum.org/le...ory/ww2-by-the-numbers/world-wide-deaths.html
Like I have said...you are down playing the extent of Fascism in our history and countering with Abbott spouting **** when they have nothing to do with each other and when I have stated I do not agree with her.

 

We are never going to agree as you seem he'll bent of minimising the extent of Fascist brutality in our recent history so rather than it turning into a slanging match I am leaving this.

 

I posted twice how many Mao was responsible for. I added others that show the consequences of other communist regimes. Not to excuse fascism, but to show it's their actions and nature, possibly more than their politics that should be looked at.

Focusing on one extreme risks missing worse ones.

 

I haven't minimised it, I'm putting it into context. A focus solely on one risks missing others equally bad or worse.

 

See my last post...any further discussion is pointless imo.

 

it was never really a discussion. You don't like fascists, and those you define as fascists. I get that. Your reasons for disliking them apply to other groups also, possibly more so, and the politics they represented are more readily accepted in our political system.

 

Dull Hull exposed and owned again.

3, 2, 1 go...

 

Are you still arguing with the childish morons? They seem incapable of saying anything that approaches evidence that they have a life worth living.

 

It's funny how Jacob Rees-Mogg and Marine Le Pen can put their arguments sensibly whereas the left wing loonies on here act like inadequate fools. Maybe because they are inadequate fools.

 

But the morons are incapable of understanding views. They can't get past giving labels and then repeating them incessantly. Everybody they don't agree with is a racist and a bigot. If you ask them why they hold these views they say: "Because they are".

 

You seem to be unable to discuss anything without being abusive.

 

It's interesting how Jacob Rees-Mogg can discuss things without resorting to tiresome abuse. It just shows how limited some people are.

 

What racist rally was that?

 

He is incapable of discussing things sensibly. He's full of insults and lacking in substance.

 

I didn't watch the video because I watched the interview on Hardtalk. All her points were well made. Did you disagree with anything she said? If so, which bits and why did you disagree?

 

I don't see what is wrong with attending a dinner with a person who's views you disagree with. Trump and Clinton attended the a dinner together this week. It's what civilised people do. It's not like you know that Jacob Rees-Mogg said anything bad.

 

He said he watched the Marine Le Penn video. There were subtitles.

 

Do you always resort to insulting people?
Marine Le Penn has some very well made views. Can you tell me which of her views you disagree with and why?