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Glenn Johnson as well?

He's playing in a Stoke defence who were bottom of the league at the start of today.

<yikes><yikes>
 
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Glenn Johnson as well?

He's playing in a Stoke defence who were bottom of the league at the start of today.

<yikes><yikes>

In his prime he was alrightish but that was a while ago and he's ****e now. Southgate lives in the past as much as he can get away with.
 
Not bad although I'm not too sure what Lingard is doing there. Not seen much of him though to be fair - @Ol' Dirty Tel has he been that good? :huh:

Had a ****ter in the derby, wasn't fit, since then he's looked very good. End of last season he looked brilliant as well, but on current form, he's behind Walcott and Sterling.

Central midfield is still my biggest worry in that side, it's poor, very poor. Striker situation shouldn't even be up for debate, Rashford has to start and I'd have Alli, Walcott and Lingard (because Sterling is injured) in behind him, with Rooney and Dier in the central midfield positions.

Don't care about who is GK and defence, we're playing Malta and Slovenia.
 
Do any of you lot reckon Short would have sacked Allardyce for that video, had he not already left Sunderland to manage England?
 
Do any of you lot reckon Short would have sacked Allardyce for that video, had he not already left Sunderland to manage England?
Don't think so the way he had the team going at the time, would love to have seen we would have been with Sam still as manager but i guess we will never know.
 
Do any of you lot reckon Short would have sacked Allardyce for that video, had he not already left Sunderland to manage England?
Probably handled it in house as the FA should have.
In my view he was sacked more for bad mouthing some of the England officials which is a no no from me - you don't criticise your employers esp when new in the job.
 
Don't think so the way he had the team going at the time, would love to have seen we would have been with Sam still as manager but i guess we will never know.

I don't think so either, your owner seems a desperate man at times, he was onto a good thing with SA as the bloke understood the club. Your name would have been dragged through the mud, again, for the 2nd time this year. Maybe it's best it worked out like this.
 
Probably handled it in house as the FA should have.
In my view he was sacked more for bad mouthing some of the England officials which is a no no from me - you don't criticise your employers esp when new in the job.

It couldn't have been handled in house as it was released in the public domain before the FA even got wind of it.

Yes, I think he'd have stood by him.
 
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It couldn't have been handled in house as it was released in the public domain before the FA even got wind of it.

Yes, I think he'd have stood by him.
By in house I meant a final warning and fine
But the other stuff forced the FA's hand
We move on but I'm not happy with the media pushing for Moyes replacement - not the right time and unsettling for the whole club - I still have concerns about him but he does need more time - I saw some improvement against a poor WBA
 
I don't think so either, your owner seems a desperate man at times, he was onto a good thing with SA as the bloke understood the club. Your name would have been dragged through the mud, again, for the 2nd time this year. Maybe it's best it worked out like this.

That's my thinking. We could have been ****e, and dragged much further into it. We've had enough bad press/crap controversy in recent times
 
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I don't think so either, your owner seems a desperate man at times, he was onto a good thing with SA as the bloke understood the club. Your name would have been dragged through the mud, again, for the 2nd time this year. Maybe it's best it worked out like this.
I think we would have lived with it as once you strip everything away as Sam said nothing much more than any other manager could have done given the state of play in the transfer games nowadays. He has a history of this in his past so he knows the ropes and I doubt if any other manager in the top leagues of Europe who has not had to conduct dealings with dodgy elements.
 
I don't think so either, your owner seems a desperate man at times, he was onto a good thing with SA as the bloke understood the club. Your name would have been dragged through the mud, again, for the 2nd time this year. Maybe it's best it worked out like this.

Totally agree with this summary. The fact that those journalists had had this ammunition in their bag for months and we're waiting for the most opportune time to release it means to some extent that England took the fall out from it and not us.

We're just smeared by association.

The very idea we'd ask or want him back not long after the Johnson fiasco is just ridiculous. This club has suffered enough off the pitch, never mind on it.