Yes I know STH. Whatever the ground, something has to win and he was obviously the best on those days But he has never been beaten on good to soft or softer. On good to soft he beat Found easily. On a fast surface (which it must have been to be over 5 sec faster than standard) Found beat Postponed easily. The ground is a vital factor and, although I warned about that early in the thread, I ignored my own warning like a total twat![]()
Not to be for Meccas, but super run in defeat. Cigar time for old boy Marko Pressy.

He'll work that filly into a nice Wolvo handicap at some point, given the time![]()
6 years time she will be down to 54 some frosty Friday evening 
Well done Luke Morris...that must be a first G1.
Lads I see Alpha Des Obeaux is 6/5 generally...was he not like 4/6 last night or am I getting mixed up? Pretty sure I seen him odds on
Lads I see Alpha Des Obeaux is 6/5 generally...was he not like 4/6 last night or am I getting mixed up? Pretty sure I seen him odds on

Mouse won't have him fully fit first time up- he trains horses for a target in mind.
Not saying he won't win, but I suspect that is why the drift is there and why they want to lay him. Very, very early days in the new jumps season gents- take your time with it!

Wow..that result really got under your skin!
Why wouldn't Seventh Heaven be "..standing in her box today?
You're just greedy and wanted a Ballydoyle 1,2,3,4
I fail to see how it got under my skin, but obviously with your qualification in psychology you will elucidate...
Seventh Heaven could have been running in the race if they had let her take her chance, so it could have been a 1-2-3-4 with the three year old filly leading home a procession.
Presumably everyone has lumped on Seventh Heaven at 9/2 for the Fillies And Mares on Champions Day. Just do not come moaning on here when she gets taken out to run in a Listed race at Dundalk the following day...
Will need the run but connections hoping his class will out.
Not sure last years staying hurdlers were as good as we're led to believe.
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