I think this subject deserves more than people just slagging each other off. Many of you are pigeon-holeing yourselves straight away without giving reasonable comments to cement your stance. Take for example the moon landings. The question here being: were the moon landings faked? Now, the majority of responses would fall into the general area of these three answers: Answer 1: Of course they were faked! The evidence is there for all to see. For ****s sake, how could we even make it to the moon? People are so gullible. Drones who cannot see what is in plain site. Idiots. Lol at the sleeping idiots. Answer 2: Well I would think that man has visited the moon. However, having looked into it I do think there are questions to be asked. I need to delve a bit deeper into this to see any and all possible compelling evidence either way. Answer 3: ****ing hell. Of course the moon landings happened. Lol you lot need to get out more. It's ridiculous you're even posting this nonsense. Talk about pointless! Ha go have a fly in your spaceship snigger. -- Now, you know where I'm sitting of course. Yup, right in the middle. To answer the question I posted, my answer is this: I do believe man went to the moon. However, having been interested in the conspiracy side of it, I believe (for now anyway) that many of the films we see of the lunar surface were faked. Why? Two possibilities: 1. What was originally filmed on the moon's surface could not be shown to the public as it was too disturbing / sensitive. 2. The footage was so bad, the need for Hollywood-esque film required the shots to be re-filmed here on Earth. Currently I'm leaning towards answer 1 there. So for me, there is definitely a conspiracy regarding the moon landings. I believe it's just the re-filming of them. What I'm saying here is I feel quite balanced on the conspiracy front. I don't believe everything I see or hear from the main stream media. Nor do I believe in every single conspiracy theory. However, I do actually look into things. I watched videos, read books, do my own small time investigating. So those who believe, keep on believing, but remember not everything is a conspiracy. And to those who think it's a pathetic joke, please dig a little deeper before you comment. You can't piss yourself at a subject (or video) if you're not willing to take a look into it. Don't just dimiss people as crazy loonies without taking a peek. Faults on both sides. But let's be respectful.
What a wonderful way to sum up a lot of people's responses. I too fall into the 'answer two' category. There are definitely things out there which demand more of an explanation. It's a shame, because if more people wanted the answers, there'd be a better chance of finding them. But many folk seem to either go too far the other way and go tin foil hat, or they scoff and laugh because they know that the general consensus is that it's a taboo subject and they desperately don't want to be seen as thinking about stuff that seems 'odd'. I'd be willing to bet that many of the people who poke fun have pondered the subject on many occasions, but would be too embarrassed to openly discuss it. I used to run a support group for alien abductees (a project from uni that I turned into a spare time thing) and it opened my eyes as to how many frightened, scared people there really are out there. Regardless of whether it was a lucid dream, a hallucination or a real life encounter, there are people who live in genuine fear of this, it's cost them jobs, health and relationships. And these aren't nutjobs, they're lawyers, students, accountants, nurses, all different walks of life who wanted to know what the hell was going on. I didnt have all the answers they wanted, but it helped me gather some research on their cases and gave them somebody to talk to about a subject they couldn't even disclose to their husbands, parents or friends. When you ask so called skeptics their opinion, their response is the same as if you'd just asked them to recommend a good porn site.
I don't know if they went or not. But I would like to know why they faked a photo of earth shot from the module pertaining to be halfway to the moon when they were still in low earth orbit. There is video evidence of this (the crews own video) and is undeniable.
All of these questions have been answered pretty-much irrefutably on the Ancient Aliens series. Some of the world's top scientists, especially globally-renowned physicists and cosmologists, have presented large volumes of convincing evidence. Surely you're aware that numerous modern inventions have apparently out of nowhere, and not by the usual processes of trial-and-error and evolution?
That Ancient Aliens thing is garbage, I'm pretty sure it was written and directed by Zecharia Sitchin as they pretty much quoted every episode verbatim from his work. Although I do like Giorgio Tsoukalos, he's well cool. And the little fat bloke with the red face, he's funny too. David Childress is it? The show's format is really crap and typically American, spending five minutes explaining what had been said before the last ad break, straight after the ad break, repeating questions. Running time 30 minutes, original content 30 seconds. As to the technology side of it, I'm not sure what sort of influence there's been, but you look at the evolution of technology over the last century and it's phenomenal. We went from a really crappy Wright brothers plane (1903) to apparently landing a man on the moon 63 years later. Having previously gone 250,000 odd years without any sort of tech, we develop everything we have now in a century? Yeah, ok. I'm not saying there were aliens saying "here you go, have some technology", but I think there might've been some reverse engineering going on. You think of the way our cars run, fossil fuels, it's very human. We burn stuff to make stuff go. Basic. Or we used steam to power trains. Not electricity, that had been around for years, how long did that take to apply to trains? And if it was applied to trains, why wasn't it straight away applied to cars? Why has it taken this long to get an electric car on the market? Not many electric ferries or aeroplanes either, yet it's quite clearly a clean energy strategy that would work. If you can take that tech and apply it to trains and cars, why not planes and boats?
You are really confused with this are'nt you. Steam power and IC was quite quickly developed because it all works along the same principles (pressure) and the progression has been slight apart from the fuel usage and pollutant output. When you talk of electric vehicles, trams and trolley busses have been around for over 100 years, they were expensive to set up because you had to lay down miles of electric track or mount miles of electric cables on poles then connect them to their own sub-stations with a stable supply, this has grown easier as power stations spread and a national grid was created. Electric cars were invented over 100 years ago but battery technology made them unviable. When you mention electric aeroplanes you are talking many, many years into the future, battery technology has improved a lot over the last 20 years but at the moment the weight and storage capacity would mean a plane could fly empty for a very short journey. These are normal human inventions and improvements, if you want to look where rapid, unusual gains have been made look at microchip and touch screen technology.
I agree with a lot of what you say but this comment is meaningless. Are you saying that someone with a good job or in a trusted position cant suddenly lose it or have mental problems? Never try to justify someone's beliefs or actions just because of the job they do, the demographics you have mentioned have been murderers and rapists too you know.
That's the bit I'm a bit suspicious about. I'm not confused about it, I just think it's odd that we applied a lot of research into certain areas and not others and the answer 'we aren't doing it because we've looked at it and it's not viable' doesn't cut the mustard with me. Steam tech was and is limited, we took it as far as we could, hence the progression into fossil fuels.
No, of course their job doesn't justify their mental state, but it defeats the stereotype that it's mostly brainless dopes that this happens to. A trained psychologist sat in on the initial sessions (with their permission and partly for my safety/time/accuracy of my results) to analyse it for the reasons you mentioned. Seems selfish and a bit cold, but it was a project after all. What was really interesting was that many of the abduction stories, or even the close encounters were very varied. I was expecting multiple repetition of negative encounters with 'greys', but more than half of the people I saw had positive experiences (despite initial terror/instinctive behaviour - fight or flight) and one woman said she would go out of her way to get taken. The species of aliens described were pretty varied, only 64% reported grey aliens of any type, which I also found odd and contradictory to theories about abduction being a latent memory of birth (elongated eyes, medical procedures, dream like state, doctor-type leader performing tests). It doesn't totally disprove the theory mind, but it did enough to push me into looking deeper into the phenomenon.
And it's pretty much the same with battery technology at the moment, we have improved slightly with new elements being used but it will take a major find/discovery to go much further.
Now I understand your use of them, not attention seekers or druggies etc I am fairly new on your board and am not yet used to how people debate, please don't think I am being awkward because I am not though I may ask the odd question that seems sarky (so I am told). I have many doubts about mainstream belief and tend to question most things.
