Transfer Rumours The Summer Transfer Rumour Thread 2016

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I agree that murder is where you intend to kill someone, but sometimes you are so reckless that death was a likely outcome. Hit someone in a fight and it's probably manslaughter, but stab them with a weapon carried for that purpose should be murder....sometimes people who stab get away with murder because they claim it wasn't intent. To me the degree of recklessness should be considered. Driving when bladdered is a high degree of recklessness. And as for the argument that they made a bad decision because they had been drinking..... You can't use the crime as the excuse.
 
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Le Tissier's Laces said:
Fair enough Beef, I don't agree but I respect that opinion.

One of my closest friends got drunk 20 odd years ago with his best mate (who was meant to be driving). My mate was less drunk so took the wheel, crashed, and ended up killing his best friend. He did two and a half years inside, became alcoholic and with drug addictions because of the guilt. I had to rescue him after one of his 'sessions' from his **** and blood strewn flat and we managed to get him as an inpatient in a clinic.

He's been dry now for 7 years and runs iron man triathlons to raise money for mental illness charities, and runs an incredibly successful business in Dubai. He's a hugely positive influence in my life.

One of my first girlfriends was killed by a driver who was coked up and pissed when we were 18. He did time and now doesn't drink and runs a successful business. I'm friends with him still.

It's crap and awful, but we have (pretty much) all done stupid things when we were younger, and for the majority of us, there but for the grace of god to be honest. As long as people have learned, I absolutely believe in second chances.
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Sad but true.........
 
fran-MLs little camera said:
I agree that murder is where you intend to kill someone, but sometimes you are so reckless that death was a likely outcome. Hit someone in a fight and it's probably manslaughter, but stab them with a weapon carried for that purpose should be murder....sometimes people who stab get away with murder because they claim it wasn't intent. To me the degree of recklessness should be considered. Driving when bladdered is a high degree of recklessness. And as for the argument that they made a bad decision because they had been drinking..... You can't use the crime as the excuse.
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Well for murder the intent is to kill or commit GBH.
 
Jaidi said:
Well for murder the intent is to kill or commit GBH.
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This is correct. To be guilty of murder the defendant has to want to either kill or seriously harm someone at the time of the incident.

No pre meditation is required, or indeed an intent to kill.
 
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OK, going back to the formation debate - that should get us back on track.

Loads of people hated Pochettino when he was here whenever we hit a rough patch for having "no plan B". Now he's left, he's become perfect in the rose tinted spectacles of hindsight. I want to be clear, I'm not particularly aiming this at people on here but he's being painted by some people as a variety of perfect manager. However, at the time, he was criticised heavily.

If Puel gets Saints playing the diamond successfully after half a dozen games, we'll have a plan B. Just wondering if that'll be a bad thing. I predict that if he succeeds here then once he's left for Arsenal (joke) he'll be remembered as a brilliant tactician who had loads of ways to play up his sleeve, never stuck for an effective formation, a tactical genius who could change formations at the drop of a hat. Current travails will be utterly forgotten.

It might not work but so far it hasn't cost anything like as much as the (again airbrushed into near sainthood) Koeman managed over Christmas 2015 with what should have been an efficient and well-settled team.

Vin
 
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st_brendy said:
I can't understand why WBA don't just offload Berahino, rather than rejecting anything which isn't a massive offer. He doesn't want to be there, he hardly scored a goal for them last season, they'll lose him on a free transfer in 12 months time if they keep him, and unless bridges are repaired (even if just temporarily) they'll have the next 12 months of negativity from both parties on the training ground and in the dressing room for that whole time.
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Berahino has tweeted that he's on holiday with his family? So maybe not moving in this window?
 
Yet each man kills the thing he loves,
By each let this be heard,
Some do it with a bitter look,
Some with a flattering word,
The coward does it with a kiss,
The brave man with a sword!

Some kill their love when they are young,
And some when they are old;
Some strangle with the hands of Lust,
Some with the hands of Gold:
The kindest use a knife, because
The dead so soon grow cold.
 
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St Godders said:
Yet each man kills the thing he loves,
By each let this be heard,
Some do it with a bitter look,
Some with a flattering word,
The coward does it with a kiss,
The brave man with a sword!

Some kill their love when they are young,
And some when they are old;
Some strangle with the hands of Lust,
Some with the hands of Gold:
The kindest use a knife, because
The dead so soon grow cold.
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I was just about to say that!!
 
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