Transfer thread for 2016-17 season
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It does make me wonder about the youth coming through. There has to be discussions about it surely? If someone (Poch?) says "This boy Edwards is class, he'll be a first teamer in a year or 2" then it doesn't make sense for a club with our net spend to go out and spunk £25m on a player that plays in his position. He'll either be displaced by the youth guy and have to be moved on or he'll hinder the youth guy's progression.
It's a bit short-sighted, and risky in that it seems easier to stay in the CL once you have the money from it than it is to get in it in the first place though
It's a bit short-sighted, and risky in that it seems easier to stay in the CL once you have the money from it than it is to get in it in the first place though
It's seems we are shedding all of our available semi-decent tried and tested cover, Chadli, Bentaleb, Mason and possibly Son?!?.
I'd like to think there will be a plethora of upgrades coming in but in truth, I reckon we'll be in for Berahino!!
It's turning this CL season into the moist uninviting prospect I can imagine. Especially when I consider the excitement there was around the squad last time we qualified.
I imagine it'll be another one of those season where we get, some of the, players we want half a season too late. In January.
I'd like to think there will be a plethora of upgrades coming in but in truth, I reckon we'll be in for Berahino!!
It's turning this CL season into the moist uninviting prospect I can imagine. Especially when I consider the excitement there was around the squad last time we qualified.
I imagine it'll be another one of those season where we get, some of the, players we want half a season too late. In January.
Vorm, Davies, Wimmer, Wanyama, Chadli, Son and Janssen would make for a very good bench if all were on form.
There's also Trippier, Mason (albeit not for much longer) Carroll (as PNP says though, in the three but not the two) plus young stars like Onomah (who needs to play more central and not right wing), CCV, KWP, Edwards and Harrison.
Unfortunately one of that strong bench appears to definitely be off (Chadli) while another is being linked with a return to Germany (Son). The likely arrival of GNK for Clint will see us have a much needed speedy wing option and so it still leaves us a squad place short of a quality bench if both Nacer and Son leave. It's why I want to believe in the Isco rumours, so that it'll mean at any given game, one of Alli, Eriksen, Lamela and Isco will have to make do with a place on the bench, that would result in having immense quality to bring on, all would get an abundance of game time because you can easily rotate a different player out for every single game. It'd also create a massive statement from the club, after City, Utd & Pool's big spending, Arsenal's impending duo deal and Chelsea looking strong again, it'll remind them all that Spurs are still here and ready to fight.
There's also Trippier, Mason (albeit not for much longer) Carroll (as PNP says though, in the three but not the two) plus young stars like Onomah (who needs to play more central and not right wing), CCV, KWP, Edwards and Harrison.
Unfortunately one of that strong bench appears to definitely be off (Chadli) while another is being linked with a return to Germany (Son). The likely arrival of GNK for Clint will see us have a much needed speedy wing option and so it still leaves us a squad place short of a quality bench if both Nacer and Son leave. It's why I want to believe in the Isco rumours, so that it'll mean at any given game, one of Alli, Eriksen, Lamela and Isco will have to make do with a place on the bench, that would result in having immense quality to bring on, all would get an abundance of game time because you can easily rotate a different player out for every single game. It'd also create a massive statement from the club, after City, Utd & Pool's big spending, Arsenal's impending duo deal and Chelsea looking strong again, it'll remind them all that Spurs are still here and ready to fight.
If the OP is right we've spent £30 and brought in about £14. We won't come out the window with a net spend, we all know that.
Mason for £12m and Chadders for £13m brings us to +£9m.
GNK for Clint will likely see that decrease a bit. I dunno, call it a £3m diff, so +£6m.
If we sold Son too the money would definitely be there for a significant (in terms of Spurs) purchase
Mason for £12m and Chadders for £13m brings us to +£9m.
GNK for Clint will likely see that decrease a bit. I dunno, call it a £3m diff, so +£6m.
If we sold Son too the money would definitely be there for a significant (in terms of Spurs) purchase
We've seen more than enough of Son, Trippier and Carroll to know that they simply cannot do the same jobs as the players they are meant to be covering in the starting XI.
The problem with a manager who is dogmatic about playing in a certain way is that he needs the personnel to make it happen precisely as he wants it to happen. All of those players, plus Mason and Chadli, are fine talents who are indeed good options to have on the bench on paper. But in reality, we've seen time and again how it all goes to pot as soon as one of them sets foot on the pitch. This is why, in principle, I am all for the current clear out - if it leads to bringing in replacements who can have the same impact as Wimmer, Wanyama and Janssen. But I just don't think we will; we're looking for very specific, in all likelihood pretty expensive options and have as usual left ourselves with little time to bring them in.
In many ways, the beauty of being a one man team as we were under AVB with Bale is that the manager cannot afford to be dogmatic about 'systems'; his best option is setting everything up to cater to the needs of that one megastar. And when that one megastar isn't available, the manager is able to play his preferred tactics and hopefully get a result or two. Our system with Bale was basically 10 players competent in their respective position, plus one unstoppable force. Our current system requires 11 specialists to make it work, as every single cog is more or less as important as each other. If the keeper can't sweep, forget it. If the full backs lack pace and stamina, forget it (which is why I strongly disagree with the popular opinion about Trippier incidentally), if the CB's can't play the ball out on the ground, forget it. If the DM can't drop back into defense, forget it. If the CM can't control the middle of the park, forget it. If the striker can't lead the line on his own, forget it. The list of terms and conditions is endless and unless we invest heavily in the wider squad, we are setting ourselves up for a catastrophe.
The problem with a manager who is dogmatic about playing in a certain way is that he needs the personnel to make it happen precisely as he wants it to happen. All of those players, plus Mason and Chadli, are fine talents who are indeed good options to have on the bench on paper. But in reality, we've seen time and again how it all goes to pot as soon as one of them sets foot on the pitch. This is why, in principle, I am all for the current clear out - if it leads to bringing in replacements who can have the same impact as Wimmer, Wanyama and Janssen. But I just don't think we will; we're looking for very specific, in all likelihood pretty expensive options and have as usual left ourselves with little time to bring them in.
In many ways, the beauty of being a one man team as we were under AVB with Bale is that the manager cannot afford to be dogmatic about 'systems'; his best option is setting everything up to cater to the needs of that one megastar. And when that one megastar isn't available, the manager is able to play his preferred tactics and hopefully get a result or two. Our system with Bale was basically 10 players competent in their respective position, plus one unstoppable force. Our current system requires 11 specialists to make it work, as every single cog is more or less as important as each other. If the keeper can't sweep, forget it. If the full backs lack pace and stamina, forget it (which is why I strongly disagree with the popular opinion about Trippier incidentally), if the CB's can't play the ball out on the ground, forget it. If the DM can't drop back into defense, forget it. If the CM can't control the middle of the park, forget it. If the striker can't lead the line on his own, forget it. The list of terms and conditions is endless and unless we invest heavily in the wider squad, we are setting ourselves up for a catastrophe.
Trippier is so far off of Walker's level of contribution to the way we play, it is laughable. He has a decent cross and scored a crucial goal for us against Watford. Other than that, he is a very average player. Certainly a step up from Naughton or, heaven forbid lest we see it again, Chiriches at RB, but still...
Despite not having the same pace or stamina of Rose, Davies gets forward brilliantly and is very solid in defense.
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Feel sorry for Trippier in that regard. 12 months ago, who would have thought that we would have been lauding Kyle as one of our best and most influential players!!
His improvement over that time has been astonishing.But that then begs the question: if a Walker-style RB is so important then why offload Yedlin when to the untrained eye he appears much more of that mould?
At LB we could and should rotate regularly. Davies has proved at club and country level to be real quality and we need him to get game-time.
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We have reached agreement with West Bromwich Albion for the transfer of Nacer Chadli.
We have reached agreement with West Bromwich Albion for the transfer of Nacer Chadli.
I know he is not as good as walker is at the moment (like others have said, Walker is greatly improved) but Trippier is decent enough for our bench ... but then again I raised Nasri
Not nice calling him butboy?Don't laugh too loudly at me but that's what I thought when we were selling Berbatov. We all knew he was going so I figured we were ****ing united around while we were getting in a replacement ... I actually thought we were trying to get one of their players (like Carrick) as part of the deal...butboy was I wrong
13 million reasons. We've just got to be in for someone BIG and I don't mean Crouchie or Rasziak, haven't we? Please someone tell me this isn't it?
The signs would point that way, but nobody is gonna tell you that still
What annoys me is that Adrien Silva - a player who we have been linked with and could benefit tremendously from - has stated that he is on his way to Leicester for around £20m; which is basically what we would've paid for him too. Why don't we show more ambition and actively unsettle and pursue players who would actually make a difference, rather than the annual humiliation we suffer at being rejected by the likes of Palace and West Brom?!
I am the first to admit that I've never been Chadli's biggest fan. Not because I don't think he's a decent player, but purely because I don't think he's a "cog" (to use CK's wording) that fits Poch's plans. He'll probably do well at West Brom and get some goals and assists like he has done with us. Good luck to him 
However, it does feel a little bit like "be careful what you wish for, Roo". - I didn't think that Chadli's departure would end up being sold with the squad the way it is.
However, it does feel a little bit like "be careful what you wish for, Roo". - I didn't think that Chadli's departure would end up being sold with the squad the way it is.
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