Anyone think the squad is strong enough ? I'm not sure what game you were watching but Fer didn't have a bad game and Montero replaced Routledge not Fer who was replaced by the shrinking violet called Ki
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Match Day Thread Swansea City 0 v 2 Hull City
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Yep got that mixed up, but still Montero didn't have a good game the same for Fer, and neither did a majority of the players, they dominated the midfield and possession but were toothless in the final third due to them not using Llorente effectively. It is something they need to change
And prior to buying Bony you constantly banged on about how we shouldn't spend so much on 1 player. You seriously need to make your mind up.
Well if we had a quality CB, CM, AM and striker on the bench we could. Trouble is, our best midfield is Leon, Cork and Gylfi - Fer, Ki and Fulton (for now at least) a nowhere near as good - we should have sold Ki this summer and shouldn't have signed Fer.
Emnes is rubbish and is not good enough, so we only have 2 strikers who will take time to adjust.
Man City have said Bony can leave for £13m, they still owe us £8m.
Sign him for £5m and let's get him straight into the team. Llorente didn't inspire me with confidence (from what I saw), looked a good few yards off the pace and didn't look anywhere near match fit either - this is why I was slamming Huw for not signing strikers earlier. With the run of games we have coming, by the time Loirente and Badton settle adjust and the team gel etc, we could well be in the $hit.
To bring in foreign players we are going to have to get rid of some with Emnes and Tabanou the favourites to go.
We have let the best strikers get snapped up by other clubs in the same position as us in the first week all because twat Jenkins was bargain basement shopping ffs. some of those proven strikers were cheap as chips and we still never tried for them....What the fcuk is this muppet doing selecting players anyway ....He has no knowledge about any player we actually need whatsoever and Guildo is no more than a yes man to him as he says that he leaves the players we need in Jenkins hands.. Do me a favour you might as well let the tea lady decide the type ksof players we need..
We were so poor in the final third yesterday that you would think Guildo would have changed things around at HT at the very least. His management skills when it matters is poor and having played two potential relegation candidates then we look like relegation candidates more than them......Just look at our next 6 games ....can you honestly say we will win any of them the way we are and we must be favourite now to end up stone cold bottom within the next few weeks where we will stay trying to play catch up for the rest of the season unless the yanks who are not happy make some radical changes starting with Jenkins and Guildo .....
Like who? Proven strikers don't come cheap Dai.
Squad is nowhere near strong enough. We missed Leon in midfield and should Gylfi, God forbid miss a lengthy number of games, then we are stuffed.
Without Leon and Gylfi on form, we won't win many games.
I agree with you Valley. I doubt that many supporters are inspired by our mediocre summer in the transfer market, and I suspect the player may feel the same way. Bringing in quality will likely inspire and maybe lift performances from those who are down at the moment.....Bony would certainly do this. He'd also be a little more mobile up front and provide a moving target. We were way too static up front yesterday. There were plenty of gaps but nobody running into them!
Watching Ash and Ayew slip away, without being replaced by spending the 30m we've had for them is hardly going to inspire anyone. Also, we don't need to let anyone else go before bringing others in....a foolish tactic IMO. Bring in the players we need and then clear out the rubbish.
Missed the game, I couldn't get any streams working, did anyone else have this problem?
Listened on the radio instead and it seemed for ages that there was only one team on the pitch, us. What was obvious even on the radio, was that we lacked drive and desire in midfield, made loads of passes but most of them pointless.
It was also obvious that we lacked someone to take control and drive us through the brick wall Hull set up for us. We needed someone to run right at defenders, get in their face, terrorise them into rash tackles, free kicks and bookings. All our midfield appeared to to do was to just shuffle the ball on and avoid contact. Our midfield is just too pretty for my liking, there's too much pedigree in there, what it needs is a Dog, just to balance it out.
I said Hull would show us what we're made of and it seems we're still chocolate with a marshmallow center, sweet but soft. Very disappointed we've learned nothing from last year.
Has anyone got any links for decent streams I could try next game?
Listened on the radio instead and it seemed for ages that there was only one team on the pitch, us. What was obvious even on the radio, was that we lacked drive and desire in midfield, made loads of passes but most of them pointless.
It was also obvious that we lacked someone to take control and drive us through the brick wall Hull set up for us. We needed someone to run right at defenders, get in their face, terrorise them into rash tackles, free kicks and bookings. All our midfield appeared to to do was to just shuffle the ball on and avoid contact. Our midfield is just too pretty for my liking, there's too much pedigree in there, what it needs is a Dog, just to balance it out.
I said Hull would show us what we're made of and it seems we're still chocolate with a marshmallow center, sweet but soft. Very disappointed we've learned nothing from last year.
Has anyone got any links for decent streams I could try next game?
Streams kept freezing with me even though they worked for Stereo so I watched it on match choice last night.
As I said from the off, Bony and Joe should have been our top 2 signings. Instead we've bought players who haven't strengthened the squad one iota, barring up front.
We now need to go and sign a couple of players that will walk straight into the starting 11, but we won't.
For fuks sake guys.Get a grip.2 games played one win one loss.**** happens.
Of course we are disappointed but it will be ok.
We will win next week.
Of course we are disappointed but it will be ok.
We will win next week.
Thing is you have to balance things with the team, we are not a Man City who can stockpile players and put players on the scrap heap when they can't be bothered with players. We have what we have and no matter what you think that we should basically say just about everyone is not good enough, we will carry on with the players we have.
We are in the second game of the season winning one and losing one, this team we lost to also beat the champions from last season, and our last opponents beat Liverpool yesterday, we cannot have perfection in every position, we can't spend tens of millions on players on the chance that they may just work, well they may not work, just like in Newcastle!
As for Bony, he won't be back ever, you need to face reality here, the guy doesn't want to come back no matter how much money is on offer, and truthfully I don't want him back! You may disagree with me, but he's been a failure at Man City, he's not the same player, I question his fitness levels being a bit part player since being there.
Your right there stumpy we have not learned from last season or the season before that....I fear for us if nobody takes a grip of the situation now and not when it's too late...We dont want another season of dominating play with no end product. There is no proper leadership who knows what they are doing at the club off or on the pitch and all we have is Jenkins way or no way that will eventually see us relegated. we have had a gypsy warning last season and we look even weaker this season with our captain deciding to jump ship and losing our top scorer who was not even a proper striker....We have a big problem at the club and that is Jenkins so sort that problem out and it will go a long way to bringing the club into premiership mode and not lower league mode where we are hanging on in the top flight by the skin of our teeth....
For me, our game was lost with our wingers. Barrow and Routledge were poor beyond belief - they seldom took their man on round the outside, and when they did get into a position to cross, it was poor. Too many times we just cut inside and passed to a player stood on the edge of the box in amongst a sea of Hull players. With Hull playing so deep, it was clear that we needed to pack the box and get plenty of crosses in - instead we put players in the box, but played the ball behind everyone to the edge of the box, lost it, and then scrambled back to try and stop counter attacks. We were never going to walk through Hull today, we had to go around them and get crosses in, but we kept trying to pick the lock in and around the D of their penalty area and they kept getting a foot in and clearing away. Frustrating.
Unlike many, I didn't see Fer have a bad game. I saw him breaking up a lot of play which was a huge part of why we dominated the ball so much, something we actually missed when Ki came on. Fer did misplace a couple of high profile passes in the second half, but they were only two or three at most, generally he was solid in possession. Gylfi was unusually poor and struggled to get the ball under control in the danger zone like he usually does. Fede and Amat won the majority of Hull's long balls and didn't do a lot wrong in the entire match. Naughton actually had a fantastic game. I don't feel that anyone did a whole lot wrong for us yesterday - we didn't create any clear chances and I genuinely felt it was as much to do with Hull as it was us.
I give a lot of credit to Hull. Phelan has them incredibly organised. I'd have hated to play against them yesterday - they sat deep, waited for us to push up on them and then hit us on the break. It was incredibly similar to how Leicester dismantled us 3-0 at the Liberty last year. A boring style of play, but a good one when done properly. Hull have a good first 11 and will likely fade after 10 games when injuries and suspensions hit should they not get enough players in in time. It's all well and good us lambasting our players, but Hull played with incredible intensity within their own final third yesterday. It's not easy to create chances against a side so unwilling push up the field and press when in defence. I think people are forgetting that Leicester had exactly the same issue, and that's with Mahrez, Gray and Vardy in their side! Hull have a galvanised first 11 fighting for their lives with their backs to the wall - but without serious squad additions, they will tire and pick up injuries and suspensions and finish somewhere between 15th and 20th. Us and Leicester are just unlucky to have played them first, while they're fresh as daisies and ready and willing to run through brick walls for the cause.
Do we need another couple of players? Yes, and I expect another striker and centre back to come in. But am I going to panic after that performance? No. We actually played decent for the majority of that game, but Hull defended better than we attacked and when they had their one chance, they took it. The second goal was a classic example of desperation to get back in the game by pushing too high and not getting bodies back in time for their counter - an occupational hazard when you're 1-0 down. Barrow and Routledge need to step up for the next game and start giving some decent service into Llorente, either that or Monty must start the next game - at least Monty was getting around his man, winning free kicks and putting some balls into the box. At the end of the day, if Gylfi's shot goes in early doors, I'd bet my house on winning that game 2-0. It's fine margins in the Premier League. Pat yourselves down and move onto the next game.
Unlike many, I didn't see Fer have a bad game. I saw him breaking up a lot of play which was a huge part of why we dominated the ball so much, something we actually missed when Ki came on. Fer did misplace a couple of high profile passes in the second half, but they were only two or three at most, generally he was solid in possession. Gylfi was unusually poor and struggled to get the ball under control in the danger zone like he usually does. Fede and Amat won the majority of Hull's long balls and didn't do a lot wrong in the entire match. Naughton actually had a fantastic game. I don't feel that anyone did a whole lot wrong for us yesterday - we didn't create any clear chances and I genuinely felt it was as much to do with Hull as it was us.
I give a lot of credit to Hull. Phelan has them incredibly organised. I'd have hated to play against them yesterday - they sat deep, waited for us to push up on them and then hit us on the break. It was incredibly similar to how Leicester dismantled us 3-0 at the Liberty last year. A boring style of play, but a good one when done properly. Hull have a good first 11 and will likely fade after 10 games when injuries and suspensions hit should they not get enough players in in time. It's all well and good us lambasting our players, but Hull played with incredible intensity within their own final third yesterday. It's not easy to create chances against a side so unwilling push up the field and press when in defence. I think people are forgetting that Leicester had exactly the same issue, and that's with Mahrez, Gray and Vardy in their side! Hull have a galvanised first 11 fighting for their lives with their backs to the wall - but without serious squad additions, they will tire and pick up injuries and suspensions and finish somewhere between 15th and 20th. Us and Leicester are just unlucky to have played them first, while they're fresh as daisies and ready and willing to run through brick walls for the cause.
Do we need another couple of players? Yes, and I expect another striker and centre back to come in. But am I going to panic after that performance? No. We actually played decent for the majority of that game, but Hull defended better than we attacked and when they had their one chance, they took it. The second goal was a classic example of desperation to get back in the game by pushing too high and not getting bodies back in time for their counter - an occupational hazard when you're 1-0 down. Barrow and Routledge need to step up for the next game and start giving some decent service into Llorente, either that or Monty must start the next game - at least Monty was getting around his man, winning free kicks and putting some balls into the box. At the end of the day, if Gylfi's shot goes in early doors, I'd bet my house on winning that game 2-0. It's fine margins in the Premier League. Pat yourselves down and move onto the next game.
Its not about just two games at all. We have not learned anything from the last few seasons and we look weaker and more vulnerable than we were.
Thanks for a good read lads. You're clearly a good bunch on here 
As for our tiny squad, you're lucky we didn't bring any more on, they were still buzzing after reading their A level results
Good luck for the rest of the season
As for our tiny squad, you're lucky we didn't bring any more on, they were still buzzing after reading their A level results
Good luck for the rest of the season