Actually he's not, there's a big misunderstanding about the term 'freedom of speech'. It is a contract of understanding between you and society where you are given the responsibility to say anything you want as long as it does not demean anyone else, does not incite hatred - be that racial, sexual, gender or any other hatred, and does not bully are person(s). You also accept the fact that although you have the right to say absolutely anything you want, within these boundaries, there is no right for anyone to either listen to you, accepted what your saying, or not to argue with you if they don't agree. Unfortunately what Lee has said is a) racist, could b) be construed as trying to incite racial tensions if taken with his other posts and so falls outside of the boundaries of free speech, and besides which he was allowed to post on this form, but he must accept that others are free to disagree with him - especially if what he says isn't factual, logical or sensible.
Yes it is. But you are telling me that there's white English people who don't like black people, people who are Muslims, or immigrants as they see all of these people as immigrants. This shows that these white English people aren't integrating into their communities, aren't speaking to their neighbours and other community members, as if they were they'd realise that Britain is a multi-cultural place, full of people of lots of different beliefs and backgrounds and has been for decades at least. Anyone's failure to integrate is a problem but you gave me a perfect example.
Let me put it another way Armchair - for you personally, how many Muslims have you met that have being saying pro-ISIS things, or have been extremists promoting violence against anyone in your community or against British/Westerns in general? And how many have you met that are just normal, working people who go to the shops, who have a hobby (say support a football team like BrunelGooner)?
I know you weren't talking about yourself, but you said the below - And I was using that as an example. Do you also see how the above is a racist statement by dividing people up based on their skin colour (black people and Asians as immigrants even though they were born in England) and saying 'us' - meaning white people, and 'them' meaning anyone of colour or a different ethnicity.
I've no problem with anyone as i've stated a number of times.What i talk about exists,i know its a dodgy subject. Lots of people of all creeds like to live amongst themselves and maybe just don't mix well.
But if you have no problem with anyone, then why are you liking posts comparing Islam to cancer, being racist to Muslims (and mainly anti-Muslim posts it seems) or similar sorts of Islamphobia? As to your second part, that is exactly what I was talking about and my original point was for - integration needs to happen rather than isolation and segregation. Notice how a lot of areas with barely any immigration are strongly pro-UKIP and are pro-anti-immigration. It's because they are so removed/segregated from actual people that they are then ripe for the fear mongering of rags like the Daily Fail and Express.
It's not anything to do with interpreting it - judging people and treating them based on the colour of the skin is racist. That is a fact. And as I say, I think it's horrendous to think that there's people out there who would think that people like Trevor McDonald, John Barnes, Mo Farah, Linford Christie, Naomi Campbell to name just a few aren't British just because of some inbuilt prejudice based on the colour of their skin!
I don't think anyone has a problem with you talking about what exists. It's about you coming across like you agree.
Well maybe those people you talk about actually like living in their parts of the country because they like it the way it is........
So your basically saying that whites shouldn't mix with blacks or Asians because they are fundamentally different to such an extreme that some people move hundreds of miles away to rural parts to ensure they live in white only communities? OR Do you think that maybe multiculturalism is good, it brings lots of benefits, enriches peoples experiences and lets people mix with people from different backgrounds, and if you are open to this then you realise how much BS is spouted by rags like the Daily Fail, Express and Sun as you can compare it to your own personal experiences, whereas if you grew up in rural parts (not everyone who lives in the country originally came from somewhere else, lots where born there and stayed there) you may not have these personal experiences to compare with the fear mongering spouted by these rags. I know which I think is more likely. Particularly as black people have been in Britain since the Romans were here, and in large numbers for hundreds and hundreds of years, Chinese and Indians/Pakistani's (and people from the sub-continent) have been here since we invaded India and took it over in 17--. If you are born in Britain you are as British as I am, simple.
For me you say what you think/feel,he All i'm saying is,if the people you speak of live in areas of little or no immigration,why would they vote ukip??...
