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PleaseNotPoll said:
Angela Eagle has read the writing on the wall and dropped out of the Labour leadership race.
This leaves Comrade Corbyn and Owen "Pfizer lobbyist" Smith to fight it out for the title.
Looks like the bloke that can't win elections is going to win another election, doesn't it?

What now for his fellow MPs that don't want to be in a party lead by Ol' Beardy?
Time for SDP II? A bizarre SNP for Britain party? More pointless disruption and backstabbing?
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Is that a little unfair on Smith? It was his job before he was an MP. Are you suggesting he is still lobbying for them? Surely it is better that he has had some real world experience - unlike Cameron and Milliband?
 
I've never understood why being a full time MP is not a 'real world' job while say, being a lobbyist is. Doing an MPs job well means you have to interact with the real world all the time which is untrue of most other jobs.
 
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Spurm said:
From the few Americans i've spoken to about it so far none of them actually thought that Trump could or would win, until we voted for Brexit. Then they all started saying "well if Britain can do that them i'm worried we might actually vote Trump in"
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I think that they might, everyone said that he didn't stand a chance of the GOP nomination, in fact they laughed at him, he proved them wrong. Hilary is pretty un-electable as well. It's sort of between a rock and a hard place. Can the electorate vote for neither? If Trump now takes a back seat and lets the rest of the republicans attack Hilary, she is going to look pretty dam bad.
 
deedub93 said:
I think that they might, everyone said that he didn't stand a chance of the GOP nomination, in fact they laughed at him, he proved them wrong. Hilary is pretty un-electable as well. It's sort of between a rock and a hard place. Can the electorate vote for neither? If Trump now takes a back seat and lets the rest of the republicans attack Hilary, she is going to look pretty dam bad.
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I'd feel slightly less worried about a nuclear war with Hillary. But otherwise yes, rock, hard place.

If i was allowed to vote, and he was nominated, i'd have gone with Bernie.
 
SpursDisciple said:
Is that a little unfair on Smith? It was his job before he was an MP. Are you suggesting he is still lobbying for them? Surely it is better that he has had some real world experience - unlike Cameron and Milliband?
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He was a political representative for a poisonous brand. Two of them, in fact.
He was pro-PFI and pushed their idea for "Patient Choice", which is better known as backdoor privatisation.
Whether it's unfair or not, I think that he'll struggle to spin that and win.
Spurm said:
I'd feel slightly less worried about a nuclear war with Hillary. But otherwise yes, rock, hard place.

If i was allowed to vote, and he was nominated, i'd have gone with Bernie.
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Doesn't matter who they vote for, apparently:
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Pretty similar in this country too, unfortunately. Totally agree about Sanders, though.
 
PowerSpurs said:
I've never understood why being a full time MP is not a 'real world' job while say, being a lobbyist is. Doing an MPs job well means you have to interact with the real world all the time which is untrue of most other jobs.
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The constituency part of the MPs role interacts with the real world, but the legislative side of the role would surely be improved by having people involved in Commerce, Charities, Education, Military, Finance etc before they vote/debate changing the way these things operate.
 
SpursDisciple said:
The constituency part of the MPs role interacts with the real world, but the legislative side of the role would surely be improved by having people involved in Commerce, Charities, Education, Military, Finance etc before they vote/debate changing the way these things operate.
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Indeed.

Ex : if you have never run a small business, you have no idea how tax legislation you vote for can be
hindering (similarly for the costs of employment regulation etc) .

Apply this across the entire list of things above and you soon see how the Westminster
disconnect occurs.
 
PleaseNotPoll said:
I don't get why you're so anti-Trump. It's not like he actually has any policies to oppose... <whistle>
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He has plenty of policies. It's just that he is the only person to understand them. Next week he will have a completely different set of policies, and the week after that.........
 
Reading the blatant Narrative cooked up by the likes of The Certifiable Liar and Tessa Jowell (and being taken on about That Bloke From Wales) about how Corbyn supports bullying, misogyny and antisemitism within the Labour party, I couldn't help but think of this...

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Apart from the Tory-lite period under Blair (and latterly Brown), there hasn't been a Labour government since 1979. Whoever is their leader is unlikely to be PM now or in the future. Corbyn looks like their best bet if they want to connect with the late '70s - he probably drives a Morris Marina, wears brown suits, has an avacado bathroom suite and an orange Draylon 3 piece suite
 
littleDinosaurLuke said:
Apart from the Tory-lite period under Blair (and latterly Brown), there hasn't been a Labour government since 1979. Whoever is their leader is unlikely to be PM now or in the future. Corbyn looks like their best bet if they want to connect with the late '70s - he probably drives a Morris Marina, wears brown suits, has an avacado bathroom suite and an orange Draylon 3 piece suite
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I think your giving your age away there Luke!
 
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