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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. Chaz

    Chaz Well-Known Member

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    I CAN prove that we have no chance of spending another £350 million a week on the NHS. It's been admitted by Leave campaigners that immigration won't get any better. These have all been admitted by the Leave camp!!! Really - are you deliberately winding people up by not listening to what the Leave campaigners are now admitting?

    Oh - and if you want to shut up dissenting voices, then you've clearly got no argument. In fact, your posts have been devoid of any actual comment for a while now. No original thoughts or actual supporting evidence to back your side up?
     
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  2. Chaz

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    We've been signing bilateral agreements with China and India for the past decade. without EU involvement. So I'm not buying that...

    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/...deals-agreed-during-prime-minister-modi-visit
     
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  3. ELLERS

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    Oops i have upset a 'Remainer' <doh> Watch out WWIII is coming! What happened to that Brexit budget?
     
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    Bloody Hell Theresa May just shut up Caroline Lucus and some Scottish MP in one kick fire response. Well done Theresa! Good start to your job.
    classic, she said to the Scottish MP if you don't want the jobs we will take them away. The Irish MP then said if Scotland doesn't want the jobs/subs Northern Ireland would have them. Followed by a close up on a quite bunch of SNP.
     
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  5. rangercol

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    Oh my god give it a rest for ****'s sake!
    People like you are talking down the economy which will work like a self fulfilling prophecy.
    The money men are talking it down in order to profit from the down turn. All you're doing is helping them.
    Stop whining about the result and deal with it.
     
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    Spot on.
     
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    That's a good one - a Tory PM that doesn't want to see our assets sold off to foreigners. Hammond says this proves Britain is open for business. Well, if you can call a fire sale open for business.
     
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  8. Chaz

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    No. I am entitled to keep pointing out the flaws in the Leave argument, none of which have been addressed. If you want a country where only your opinion can be voiced, then go find one.
     
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    Upset? No. Frustrated by your blinkered view of opposing arguments? Certainly.
     
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  11. Chaz

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    Long specialised arguments? You mean facts? OK, I thought you were interested in those. Apparently not...
     
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    Not me. I accept Brexit will happen and I want it to be as good as it possibly can be. My views on ARM have nothing to do with Brexit. I would have said the same if the referendum result had been "Remain" or if we'd never had the referendum. A great UK tech company that currently controls its own destiny will have its bosses outside the UK from now on. I know what this could mean in the medium to longer term, based on my experience of other UK tech companies being bought by foreign competitors for their know-how. It's where I spent 35 years of my working life.

    Who were you listening to, Ellers, when you heard an expert say the complete opposite earlier today? I'm open to learning new things and changing my mind, you know.

    I repeat - this is not about Brexit, just about a foreign company buying ARM and what might happen next.
     
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    You are a nightmare.
    I'll leave it there too. Life's too short.
     
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    Talk about kettle, pot etc.
     
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    Well, so much for debate. So much for not getting personal, and so much for respecting other people's views. I guess that's not how you do stuff, Col.
     
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    Hi Stroller. Surely a 'fire sale' in the context of the sale of a business refers to a situation in which the shareholders dispose of a distressed asset at less than its perceived market- or net asset value, generally because it has reached the point at which good money after bad is required to keep it spinning?

    As usual I don't know the facts, but the market generally sets the price. Presumably, ARM became attractive to the Japanese acquirer because the FX rate movement made it so. Maybe at the higher price it was deemed to costly.

    Lexical semantics perhaps, but this might well be an opportunistic acquisition, but not sure it was a fire sale.
     
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    No. You're describing yourself Chaz.
     
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    Lexical semantics aside, would you say this sale is something to be celebrated Uber?
     
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    Dunno. Businesses get bought and sold all the time. Them wot own the shares are free to sell them if the price offered is sufficiently attractive. Who's to say they weren't lining up a bid anyway, but the FX rate made it irresistible?
     
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  20. Uber_Hoop

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    Is that your dog, Stroller?
     
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