Off Topic EU deabte. Which way are you voting ?

This is really just a repeat of the ignore the experts claim from Gove.
It's lack of imagination that enables someone to be oblivious to risk in a given scenario. It goes hand in hand with experience in the assessment and making the safest choices.
I'd far rather identify the risks and work out solutions in advance than pretend they don't exist. My risk assessment on the day of the referendum has earnt me hundreds of pounds already and saved me plenty on foreign trips.

I don't believe only the past is possible and I don't believe others who voice concern do either. That no country has ever left the EU highlights that this has never been done in the past so you are making a false assumption about those who disagree with you.
There are real hurdles to overcome and it is surely in all our interests that the best deals are achieved as we leave the EU. WTO is not the best deal by a very long way.
Today I heard that the UK will initially seek EEA access with a handbrake clause on immigration under article 112 of the EEA agreement. I guessing that is just one of many avenues being explored

 

Only a fool would use a word he admits to not knowing the meaning of.

barmpot. Noun. (plural barmpots) (northern England, informal, pejorative) Idiot; an objectionable and foolish person.

On the other hand a phone might make an incorrect predictive selection, but you had to mention it didn't you. What a ****ing fool you are.

 

You back on the booze?

 

No it isn't try researching the reality and here's a hint try reading the thread, starting with my posts on the subject, it might give you a clue

 

The fact that you posted that in a repost to a Muslim poster who was challenging your obvious racism, and it was liked by the Hull UKIP voter says it all.

Pair of bigoted ****s

 

You back on the back slide?

What a shocker

Standard for the Hull brethren in my experience, back stabbing, snide, ****e Hawks

 

You wallow in the satisfaction of having to get up at 5am for a 6 am shift love, you hero you.

I'm sure NSIS is as jealous as **** of your lifestyle

 

Says the bean counter bigot, who opposes EU immigration despite being married to a Pole.

If only we had your level of imagination eh - a morbidly obese, bigoted, small minded green eyed, boring,old ****

Sensible

 

If you have a look at the video I posted, the former Greek finance minister is pretty much saying ignore the experts within the EU, because they're not experts and having taken over control of a countries economy, they force them into decisions that they know are wrong, and also that are undemocratic. He mentions Ireland, that they changed from a model economy to a basket case needing a bail out.

His words also suggest that the rules as written are largely ignored, with no Country, including France and Germany, complying with the agreements for the eurozone.

In the interest of balance, on another video, he did say that if you're not in the EU, do not join, but if you're already in, you're better of staying in to reform it as the federal nature of the EU and the neoliberals that run it, will make it as difficult as possible if we leave.

He made quite a few very interesting revelations, one being that the group that make all the decisions, don't officially exist.

I also looked at some clips of paper work that Heath kept quiet about, and presumably so has every leader since, that proves they all knew that he signed the documents claiming it was just a common market, knowing that it was a stated aim to remove power and control from sovereign nations, to be passed to an unelected, uncountable central federation, which no UK politician has the authority to sign up to.

 

Tbf Poles are prepared to do the low level jobs the English aren't. Pete just capitalised on that... and so did she

 

You'd think with them all being so hard working and cheap to run, Poland would be booming.

A fair few of the Poles round here are pissed off, because the Romanians have come in and undercut them so taken 'their' jobs. I guess we all have our price.

 

It is you UKIP dick

It's the most progressive economy in Europe and the only one that didn't dip into recession in 08.

If you had the vaguest clue about what you were talking about, and weren't such a small minded UKIP dogma swallowing bigot, then you might understand the context of the hard working Poles who came over here in the mid 2000's in search of a better life, but are now flocking back home to escape the kind of small minded racists who begrudge them a living in the UK.

 

I can keep an open mind about the rest of what you posted but when I come to this bit, it just sounds like X-files. I cannot see the leader of any country, especially the UK, 30 years after such a terrible worldwide conflict, signing up to anything they knowingly believed was some master plan to give up national sovereignty. If ppl think Theresa May is not going to give up on our interests on Brexit renogiations, being as indifferent to the whole situation as she is, I really can't believe how the same ppl can argue any leader would do what you're suggesting here.

 

I have read the thread, I have seen your posts being discredited on numerous occasions, so I will pass on using them as an insight. I'll return to this tomorrow.

 

What are you on about?

He talks ****, always leads with an insult and doesn't understand basic statements. It usually gets worse as the day goes on, buy okay, it might not be drink, he is probably just as stupid as you, Tobes.

 

There is nothing funnier, or more pathetic than a fool who makes daft assumptions and builds his world around them.

What shift? You are making things up again.

I couldn't care less what he is jealous of. Are you really so pathetically insecure that you need to resort to this nonsense?

 

He talks sense but gets infuriated by the pedantry of the likes of you and your fellow Hull supporters on this thread.

Can't say I blame him. Some of the deflection and avoidance of the obvious is beyond tedious.

 

It was you who were taking side swipes at his lifestyle, I was responding in kind. Seems I hit a nerve

 

You patently haven't got a clue about the issue being discussed, but as per, have waded in with an ill informed, ignorant and facile retort on the subject at hand.

You're a bell end

 

What pedantry have I been accused of?

The fact that you, and a few others, failed to understand a simple statement and then could not answer a question is the truely tedious thing.

Oh, and the lies you keep spouting don't help anything along, do they.