Off Topic EU deabte. Which way are you voting ?

For somebody who's so insufferably smug himself, he spends an inordinate amount of time accusing others of it!

 

Before you call me names and take the piss out of my glasses remember I voted remain.......

I didn't pay an awful lot of attention to either campaign and instead did my own research and my own decision - can you show me some quotes from Boris and Co. Where they said migration would be culled or did they call for controls?

.....I expect that Nige said culled or strung up?

 

Please explain how an attitude like mine is part of the problem?

 

It won't necessarily involve free movement. It could just be the scheme we use in non EU countries.

 

What would you like on your CV

Got a first at Oxford or MIT a First at XXXXX in France?

Yes a German degree in engineering is good, but so are the UK ones.

 

Already done above. Dismissing a section of society, without acknowledging that they are victims of the failure of others, including me and you, is leaving a disenfranchised section of society that is growing.

Acknowledging the problem is the first step to finding a solution. Brushing them away and replacing them is hardly conducive to resolving it.

 

That education comes from parenting not school. I don't see how that can be the government, the immigrants or anyone else's fault other than the parents.

 

It's a false argument that assumes everyone can get into Oxford or MIT.

 

The Labour party are marginally more relevant than the Sensible Party at this particular moment. I don't know why you keep mentioning them other than to reiterate what an angry, bitter old man you are.

I've always voted Tory by the way so you attacking the Labour party means little to me.

 

I agree with this. I'm in favour of wider educational opportunities, and learning in another country offers a fair number of challenges that would give a qualification more credence.

 

It was just an example, A UK business will have heard of UK Unis and not so on EU ones.

 

Yeah the message that immigration could increase beyond it's current levels was of course how it was put across

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... I haven't dismissed anybody ... I grew up on the Saffron Lane in Leicester which is about as far removed from leafy suburbia as you can get ... I could have easily accepted that as my lot in life ... but I wanted more than just existing so I worked in Leicester, starting off on very modest wages in a decorator's merchants, before moving to take a job in South East England that had better longer term prospects ... living as a lodger for the first 3 years whilst I got money together to get my own place .....for me that is just taking responsibility for my own life rather than 'expecting' someone else to do it ... I'm not brushing anyone away ... indeed I'm advocating self-empowerment ... amazing what you can acheive in life if you put some effort in rather than just sitting around feeling sorry for yourself and expecting something to turn up on your doorstep ...

 

I think students who choose to study abroad are looking for work in a much bigger market that just UK only businesses who are only interested in UK qualifications.

 

If the Uni is of good quality, I agree but as most EU Unis

Not all of them, its also costs.

 

Freedom of movement for our youth isn't just about where they choose to study, it's about being able to view the entire EU as their job market. The ability to decide to go and live and work anywhere within the EU, without having to apply for work permits and visas.

This is one of the prime reasons why 73% of 18-24 year olds voted remain.

To deny that a post brexit UK without freedom of movement is viewed as a negative for that age group is both delusional and patronising as it's ignoring what they've actually said on the issue.

 

WTF?!

 

How many of them would work in the EU?

As our youth as you "remains" say are all lazy

 

How long is a piece of string? Who knows how many from future generations would choose to take that option? The fact is that they wanted to keep that option there.

I've never said all of our youth are lazy, so yet more generalisation and nonsense from you.

 

Not use specific, but others have.