The Politics Thread
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In other words, the whole Brexit campaign!....
The people who convinced enough numbskulls that they'd be better off without that nasty old EU telling them what to do.
The people who convinced enough numbskulls that they'd be better off without that nasty old EU telling them what to do.
Corbyn, perhaps? Always rather anti-EU, but couldn't face the idea of this government without anything holding it back.
Paul Nuttall? One of the few Ukippers that anyone's heard of, but he wants out and has bottled the leadership position.
Still happy to pick up his MEP salary though, of course.
Hey, I've just had a thought. Perhaps this is all pushing towards the return of one of their old members?
No, they're not going to dig Maggie up (though I'm sure a few have thought about it).
Man of the people and anti-establishment hero, Nigel Farage! Perfect Tory leader.
No, they're not going to dig Maggie up (though I'm sure a few have thought about it).
Man of the people and anti-establishment hero, Nigel Farage! Perfect Tory leader.
She sat on the fence. She's a leaver by conviction, but played the loyalty card by backing remain. But only very, very tentatively. She wont want to be PM just yet, she's still busy picking splinters from her arse.Perhaps Theresa May had Sith-like foresight to see this is how things would come to pass.
If so, well played to her.
Was only ever any good for referendum politics.
Will be interesting to see if UKIP can effectively do the reverse of the SNP as a political party.
Lots of people have accused UKIP of being a cult of personality and unable to function without Farage.
Similar accusations were leveled at the SNP and Baron Greenback, though.
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Pretty hard to say that sort of thing about them now, in my opinion.
Given they did the reverse of the SNP, but succeeded spectacularly, they could all go
"job done" and vanish without trace. But there is an opportunity in the current political climate
(for those in their ranks bold enough to do so) to try and become the third political party.
Time will tell.
The approach to the exit (or lack of it) could determine their direction.
A centrist party aimed at the disenfranchised working class in the north in particular could work well.
A lot of them will have already voted Leave and/or for UKIP in the EU, too.
OK But the SNP were already in power, I suppose you are referring to the demise of the Labour Party in Scotland which caused the increase in SNP members to Westminster. The same thing is happening in England but people like Eagle have not realised it yet. People just don't want 3 Tory parties they want a choice, momentum represents that demand and if the Labour party in Westminster don't recognise it soon they will be history like they are in Scotland.
The SNP long wanted and waited for their referendum.
In that timeframe, they have had to get on with the more mundane work of taking increasingly
more political responsibility, and in doing so earning more credibility for their original demand.
UKIP OTOH have done the reverse. They got their referendum demand a lot quicker, and won.
They have not had to build the political credibility (control of large city councils, devolved/
national govt etc) .
And as is being discussed, now they have won so soon and spectacularly, they can
just vanish into the void if they so choose.
OK thanks for the explanation. The irony is that their power base is in Brussels lol.
English politics are now in the melting pot but as long as the Tories remain in office the change will not be apparent but the longer they leave the next election the more chance the other parties have of realigning.
The irony is that Brussels is where they have been able to gestate in plain sight of
those they have just sent a seismic wave through.
Brussels can't say they weren't warned. In Farage's opening speech in 1992 he openly said that his mission was to take the UK out of the EU.
So he's been picking up a salary for doing nothing for 14 years, while complaining about a gravy train?
Oh and his wife has been either a secretary for him or his assistant for most of that, too.
That's up there with Iain Duncan Smith moaning about handouts, while living on his in-law's farm that's paid for by EU subsidies.
Worse still, mate, it's 24 years! Yes, he's been riding the gravy train whilst trying to derail it!...