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Premiershiporbust IV said:
Why does my argument fall apart...?

Ask yourself which is better - business based in the UK, paying tax and NI and contributing to the UK economy but with the benefit (to it) of being able to manufacture its goods and sell them at a competitive price by using UK and EU workers at a competitive rate of pay
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You choose to ignore my point about factories being moved to other countries for financial reasons whilst we were in the EU already then!

Weren't the protection of 'workers rights' a mandate of the stay campaign and a point used many times on debates on here? These rights cost money, some countries don't apply them to the same degree as we do.

Competitive or exploitation?
 
Premiershiporbust IV said:
So the failure of government of the day (on both sides of the political spectrum) means that the man at the coal face should lash out in anger
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All qualifying citizens are entitled to vote, some chose remain, some chose leave and some chose not to vote. The largest count was for those choosing out. That latter count was not made up of seventeen million angry people.

What I can see is people having a fundamental misunderstanding, or dislike of what democracy is from one side.
 
Here is a stat I have just read from that bastion of remain Scotland...

Size of population 2016 ( Estimation)....5420000..

Size of remain vote..................................1661191..
Size of leave vote.....................................1018322..
Total of people voting.............................2679513..
Total of people not voting.......................2740487..

The majority of the population in Scotland didn't bother to vote.. It seems that the leader of Scotland Ms Nicola Sturgeon does not represent majority will of Scotland because they don't care if they remain or leave.

Just a thought..
 
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wizered said:
Here is a stat I have just read from that bastion of remain Scotland...

Size of population 2016 ( Estimation)....5420000..

Size of remain vote..................................1661191..
Size of leave vote.....................................1018322..
Total of people voting.............................2679513..
Total of people not voting.......................2740487..

The majority of the population in Scotland didn't bother to vote.. It seems that the leader of Scotland Ms Nicola Sturgeon does not represent majority will of Scotland because they don't care if they remain or leave.

Just a thought..
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Ahead of you there my friend http://www.not606.com/threads/european-debate-thread.328676/page-81#post-9395596 <ok>

My stats are slightly different though. The remain and leave figures are the same but we went different on the number who didnt vote.
You went with the total Scottish population which is fine of course <ok>
I went with the number that were eligible to vote. It works out that around 1.3 million people who could vote - didnt vote.

I worked it out that its around 1.3 million who didnt vote because there was only a 67% turn out of people who did vote. Meaning 33% didnt vote and 33% is a third. Doing the maths, if 2.6 million voted and thats two thirds, then one third would be around 1.3 million <ok>

But your point, like mine, is still the same. The turn out was poor and a hell of a lot of people couldnt be bother to vote and add that together with those who voted to leave then nearly two thirds of those allowed to vote didnt vote remain, so how is that the majority?

Also, Glasgow had just a 56% turn out. Nearly half couldnt be assed to vote or didnt care!

Sturgeon wants out of the UK and is fooling everyone that Scotland wants it too saying the majority voted for it. We know that is crap.
 
wizered said:
Good, valid points, just proves I must not copy I must do my own research, as you said, same outcome..<ok>
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You did nothing wrong wiz. Everything you put was correct. I just did mine in a different way. We both made the same point and in agreement with each other. Feels strange doesnt it? <whistle>;)<laugh>
 
Oh no. The Bank of England are now having a press conference and are publishing their financial stability report. Expect Prem and co to emphasise and exaggerate all the doom and gloom points. Quick, world war 3 is coming! <yikes>
 
Captain Jack Sparrow said:
Oh no. The Bank of England are now having a press conference and are publishing their financial stability report. Expect Prem and co to emphasise and exaggerate all the doom and gloom points. Quick, world war 3 is coming! <yikes>
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Well I was trying to leave it but you called my name... I haven't even looked at the report other than the fact that it was mentioned on the news. It wasn't really news though because we knew it was coming....

What did however worry me a LOT today was this http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36715806 - big, no MASSIVE alarm bells ringing now.

I've seen this twice before in my lifetime in terms of my pension fund. The first time I was unaware and I was frozen in and took a big loss, the 2nd time my advisor tipped me the nod and I got out early and before things got really bad and people got trapped again. Both times, it was 4-5 years before the country managed any kind of recovery but this time, we are going to be the runt of the litter left out on the roadside to die...

The flow of investment money and especially foreign money is O-U-T (of the country). Investment funds will have to start selling property soon to fund the withdrawals which will have a knock on effect with industry and private property alike and I will happily call anyone on here who claims to be unconcerned about a loss of 20-25% in the value of their home and all of the knock-on effects, a liar...

In line with the title of this thread, is that apocalyptic enough for you - if not, there is more...
 
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Here is some anecdotal evidence from real businessmen taken from a business BB I use...

"Re Brexit, we have differing views and everybody has their own agenda. I was buying a business, credit has now put up a wall (Barclays) and that's purely down to Brexit"

"We finance technology as part of our business and just had £250k of finance rejected whereas last week it would have sailed through as underwriters have been told to tighten belts. I can put a sticker on 3 more orders that are currently under finance review and wouldn't have been last week. Businesses like mine are the lifeblood of the economy, employ 40 staff and a reduction in business will equal cost cutting, poss wage cuts and job losses. I'm only one little business but unfortunately this is reality. More quantative easing,support for banks but they in turn tighten up lending, feckin Brexit, great idea !!"

(both from 1st July 2016)

There is more where that came from but carry on thinking it will all be fine....
 
Captain Jack Sparrow said:
Oh no. The Bank of England are now having a press conference and are publishing their financial stability report. Expect Prem and co to emphasise and exaggerate all the doom and gloom points. Quick, world war 3 is coming! <yikes>
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Well....

Premiershiporbust IV said:
What did however worry me a LOT today was this http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36715806 - big, no MASSIVE alarm bells ringing now.
...we are going to be the runt of the litter left out on the roadside to die...
The flow of investment money and especially foreign money is O-U-T (of the country).
I will happily call anyone on here whom claims to be unconcerned about a loss of 20-25% in the value of their home and all of the knock-on effects, a liar...
In line with the title of this thread, is that apocalyptic enough for you - if not, there is more...
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I was right, emphasis and exaggerate! <laugh>
 
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I wouldnt say im burrying my head in the sand but you can think that if you like, if it makes you feel better about your life and gets you through your day easier. You need all the 'pick me ups' that you can get <ok>

Im just positive about it all. We all said it will get worse before it will get better.

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Can somebody write for me please!

I don't want uncontrolled immigration and I want sovereignty of our country back!

But could you make the text really big in the important places and maybe use some coloured text here and there!

And maybe pad it out with some points that will be left unanswered if I am questioned on them!
 
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'Pound has fallen lower against the dollar than immediately after Brexit was announced'

You, R&W and Prem keep bringing us bad news.
Ok, if it makes you feel better - you told us so.
17 million think otherwise.
FFS stop whinging, it won't change anything.

'who claims to be unconcerned about a loss of 20-25% in the value of their home'
25% drop in house values ? - Cuckoo land.
The young hope your right though.
 
Redprintt said:
'Pound has fallen lower against the dollar than immediately after Brexit was announced'

You, R&W and Prem keep bringing us bad news.
Ok, if it makes you feel better - you told us so.
17 million think otherwise.
FFS stop whinging, it won't change anything.

'who claims to be unconcerned about a loss of 20-25% in the value of their home'
25% drop in house values ? - Cuckoo land.
The young hope your right though.
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The bad news is bad though. Brexit has been horrendous so far. It is evident that it wont work well and the best option is to abandon Brexit and commit ourselves to the EU.
 
Mind the gap! said:
The bad news is bad though. Brexit has been horrendous so far. It is evident that it wont work well and the best option is to abandon Brexit and commit ourselves to the EU.
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Ok. Since we have a truce together, I wont reply how I really want to reply. (I will leave that to Banksy <laugh>)

Prior to the referendum, both sides predicted if leave wins then the financial state will get bad and would be bad for a few years. For crying out loud, its only been 2 weeks!

You are telling us stuff that we already knew was going to happen. But I expected it to be a lot worse though, the way some were talking on here!

Stop going on about remaining in the EU. It wont happen. Deal with it. The quicker the remainers get over it, the quicker the country can recover <ok>
 
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