Off Topic EU deabte. Which way are you voting ?

If you say so......we've been through this at least a dozen times. It's getting very boring!...

 

I can't see a UK government accepting the same levels of immigration when a majority of the country thinks there's too much immigration.

 

Why will they just move on and forget about it?

You're taking it as a given that the EU will concede this point and still continue with a free trade agreement.

 

When did they last have a good one?

When it comes to voting, the yanks are as thick as the uk remainers, but fortunately those with common sense and at least a modicum of intelligence outnumber the likes of the remain voters

 

When did we have a vote on who thinks there's too much immigration?

I must have missed that one.........

 

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2006/jan/07/workandcareers.careers4
"There is a huge difference between knowing someone is guilty and suspecting or believing they're guilty. We work under extremely strict rules of ethics and we're subject to the law. It's obviously unethical and illegal for a lawyer to deceive a court knowingly. If my client tells me he's guilty, I can't say he's innocent in court."

 

Wooo lets celebrate - lost triple AAA credit rating, devaluation of pound, imports more expensive, shrinking of economy, £250bn needed to be pumped in by Bank of England to stabalise at this level, Article 50 delayed, even more spending cuts and tax hikes forecast. Woo lets party!

 

I'm not going against that, I can't, it's fact.

It was never going to be plain sailing with everything dropping in our favour. We now need to renegotiate and get the best deals we can.

I'll also be honest, I'm trying my best to answer this question but I'm very weak in this area. Sorry

If you want to defend a *****phile sympathiser, that's your prerogative

 

Have a word with Treble then. He was still discussing it and doesn't seem to have come to a conclusion at this stage.

 

Says the guy who wants another referendum!

 

I'm not sure if this is a post designed to ridicule, as I let my heart rule my head with a previous answer to "one of your questions".
Before I try to answer your question, let me reiterate my stance. I am not anti immigration. I believe that we need to have a flexible workforce to manage and enhance our economy, in the same way, as perhaps, the Mediterranean countries have a flexible workforce to manage tourism. My issue is that I believe that the UK should dictate those levels, I would suggest by introducing measures that don't make the UK as generous with what it provides, in terms of benefits (either directly or indirectly), rather than having those levels dictated by the EU.
Now to try to answer your question...I'm really not sure whether I want to be in the common market as is now, therefore free movement is probably not really an issue. I want to be part of a common market that uses its collective strength to benefit all of its members, but I don't see that now. We still pay more for our goods and services than any other European country.
If we can get to the point where we are truly trading just goods and services, not being part of some federal superstate, and free movement was the only issue from stopping this happening then I would not be against this.

 

I see what you're saying but there's something distasteful about the way she says that AFTER the case has been done and dusted.

There's a film called Reversal of Fortune, not sure if you've seen it mate. At the end the lawyer turns around to the rather odious bloke he's just got off, and says "Legally, this was an important victory... morally you're on your own."

She has a job to do, but the scoffing at the end suggests that she doesn't detach her job from her moral compass.

 

How can they do that? Which sales will be without tariffs and which sales will be with tariffs. We should be trying to simplify things rather than making them more complicated.

 

I agree that the benefits system needs an overhaul. As well as some unemployed people getting too much, there are many vulnerable people who don't get enough to have a minimum living standard.

 

Well this comes down to the equation of whether people want cheap food. We've had 30 years of cheap stuff thrown at us. The cost is immigrant workers, low wages, chemical sprayed food, dairy farmers going bust etc. If the public want equity in the food market, then the food will cost more.

 

Their voting system is a lot worse than that of the UK. That surely can't help.

 

Typical childish response from the "hysterical" remain poster. The point being made is that both sides lied and tried to win the argument by playing dirty. And for your information, I voted remain, I just never believed that whatever the outcome, the end of the world would quickly follow.

 

That's why I think people who can work but don't work should be "encouraged" then it will be easier to spend money on the disabled and other worthy causes.

 

Completely agree with that. The living wage should help to push this too. In the past the benefits system was far more lucrative than working for £6 an hour.

 

I can't say I'm speaking from experience here, but I would be absolutely staggered if that doesn't already happen..